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VS Model Cameron Russell: “The most important part of my job is to show up with a 23-inch waist”

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The full story from Daily Mail:

Victoria’s Secret model Cameron Russell is warning girls away from a modelling career. The 25-year-old, who recently spoke at the annual TED (Technology, Entertainment, Design) conference in Palm Springs, condemned the fashion’s industry’s obsession with beautiful, skinny white women.

She said: ‘For the past few centuries we have defined beauty not just as health and youth that we are biologically programmed to admire. ‘But also as tall, slender figures and femininity and white skin. This is a legacy that was built for me and its a legacy that I have been cashing out on.’

Warning young girls about the perils of becoming a model, she said: ‘It’s out of your control and it’s awesome but it’s not a career path.’

‘I am the recipient of a legacy – I’ve received all these benefits from a deck stacked in my favour.’

The talk, which was posted online, has now been viewed more than a million times and grabbed the attention of both the fashion and political worlds.

In a follow-up interview on CNN she said she was the winner of a ‘genetic lottery’ and that her looks merely fit a narrow definition of beauty. Writing for the channel she explained why she wanted to give the talk because she ‘wanted to tell an honest personal narrative of what privilege means.’

She wrote: ‘Hard work is not why I have been successful as a model. I’m not saying I’m lazy. But the most important part of my job is to show up with a 23-inch waist, looking young, feminine and white. This shouldn’t really shock anyone. Models are chosen solely based on looks.

‘Even if I did give a good talk, is what I have to say more important and interesting than what Colin Powell said? (He spoke at the same event and his talk has about a quarter of the view count.)

‘Like many young people I believe I have potential to make a positive impact in the world. But if I speak from a platform that relies on how I look, I worry that I will not have made room for anyone else to come after me. I will have reinforced that beauty and race and privilege get you a news story.’

Miss Russell, who models underwear for Victoria’s Secret, studied economics and political science at Columbia University.

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mary
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mary

she looks older than 25

aimeejaq
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aimeejaq

aaaand thus proves her point.

Junior
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Junior

lmao yessss

laura.croft
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laura.croft

i dont think she is pretty–her face is average, i would even say its kind of rough and unattractive. she also makes a lot of invalid points. there are SO many brazilian, black, mixed, east african, latin, etc models……they seem to be dominating actually, there just arent enoug of them LIVING in the US. the racial make up U.S. is, about 70-80% White….i’d say the etnic/exotic models have definitely gotten a lot of attention and they will only continue to as more of them come into the US. no body cares if you’re white. maybe back in the 70s……but its… Read more »

laura.croft
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laura.croft

to clarify, im not “pro” any race and dont want to offend.i am italian, dark haired and tan skin….but i feel like when a model is “exotic” or mixed they get so much more attention b/c there are less of them, which is why i feel what shes saying doesnt make sense. its like shes living in the past. i dont know.

alyssa
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alyssa

Sorry you’re wrong. Most models are white. There is a breakdown of ethnicity (is genetic breakdown – Brazilian doesn’t mean non white BTW, only where u are born. Many Brazilian are German, Spanish or other central euros, sa,me with s. African models – not exactly coloured)

Your point about ethnicity and whiteness is invalis

alyssa
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alyssa

Sorry you’re wrong. Most models are white. There is a breakdown of ethnicity (is genetic breakdown – Brazilian doesn’t mean non white BTW, only where u are born. Many Brazilian are German, Spanish or other central euros, sa,me with s. African models – not exactly coloured)

Your point about ethnicity and whiteness is invalid

budni
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budni

hm, people do love exotic looks but defo not in the fashion industry. i’ve been living in asia and australia. most, like 7% of the tv and print ads for a more or less international brand are with white male and female models. like white white. blond hair, blue eyes.
the rest of them are asian girls who were caucasian as possible. plus being taller than the normal girl. which is weird. because in asia most of the men are prefering cutesy tiny girls.
i guess ther is a huge gap between real life and fashion world “i like”.

Snip
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Snip

Well, you might say that. But in fashion, the bonier someone’s face is, the better. They call a bony face “great bone structure.” The more caved in and drawn, the better.

Women and gay men love an OLD-looking face. Meanwhile, straight men of all ages love rounded female faces. 😉

Bella
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Bella

“Women and gay men love an OLD-looking face. Meanwhile, straight men of all ages love rounded female faces.”

What a ridiculous generalisation.

Rita
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Rita

it’s 2013*

(yup.. i’m being annoying) lol

ebby
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ebby

love her. really enjoyed her ted talk. i’m more likely to believe her position on modeling versus someone like tyra banks. the way tyra talks about it you would think it was brain surgery. not to say that modeling isn’t hard work but like cameron said, its your physical that’s the hugest determining factor.

Just look at Coco Rocha. I’m pretty sure she’s hard working but a few years ago when she was called “large” she noticed she wasn’t booking as many jobs. Now that she’s rail thin, her career is booming.

Liz
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Liz

The Coco Rocha thing is really sad because there is some skill to modeling (knowing how to pose/what your best angles are/things that work for photos) and she has it in spades. If you’ve ever seen any behind the scenes videos of her posing, it’s incredible. Russell is correct that measurements are the key limiting factor, but she’s underselling other factors by acting like being tall, thin and gorgeous are sufficient rather than necessary conditions for booking jobs.

veeeeev
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veeeeev

That’s very true. I’m a fan of Coco – and seeing her work the camera is amazing. There are lots of rail thin girls out there who can’t model even if the job was handed to them.

Kate
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Kate

beautiful hair

Junior
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Junior

ditto

lila
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lila

She sounds like she has a good head on her shoulders.
Very smart, rational and critical about her occupation and not taking it for granted. She’s saying that she’s fitting the niche & I respect her for accknowledging that she’s lucky, not something better than anyone. Also, I think she sounds very mature and intelligent and I definitely see her doing some writing / publicity stuff after ending her modeling career.

Casey
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Casey

I agree. I also like that she is acknowledging that 1) it is a niche and 2) that she’s cashing in on it.

So many models feel like they need to justify them cashing in on a niche, so they start perpetuating the same beliefs that the fashion industry wants you to believe…that the ONLY beauty is their beauty. Basically, some models want to exaggerate their accomplishments and start defending their success by defending the industry.

When there’s nothing wrong with just saying “Hey I have these traits and they’re willing to pay me for them so I said ‘Why not.'”

solaxia
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solaxia

Yep completely agree.

Also, I think she is really pretty and sounds intelligent.

Erica
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Agreed – best model quote/interview/speech I’ve ever heard.

La la la la
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La la la la

+1

Soph
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Soph

Does anyone feel like she is kind of perpetuating this so called ideal with her comments?

Maybe it’s just be but I feel like something is off. I actually do not think that many people only find tall skinny white girls attractive. I don’t feel that in my own world at all, I thought it’s just like models are tall and thin but plenty of actresses etc are glorified for their non lanky bodies.

Or am I just missing the point and is she just talking about the fashion world?

JJ
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JJ

She sounds pretty cool!

kit
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kit

Her mom started ZipCar and is very well connected/influential in the fashion social circuit. That also played in Cameron’s favor.

Liz
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Liz

She has a very realistic and honest approach on her career and I respect her for that. Usually, us women, get sold this idea that models are the ones to look up to (instead, lets say, female academics, politicians, writers, etc.) and they’re given certain social privilege because of the way they look, while most people can’t control that aspect of their lives. Sure, you can workout, put make up on, even have surgery, but the true accomplishment as a human being (to me) is to grow at an intellectual level. So is nice that she somehow pointed that out,… Read more »

Zumrut
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Well said Liz! And the way you pointed out idea of looking upto someone is spectacular

Liz
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Liz

Thank you!

serena
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serena

Candice S. has a 23″ waist and Cameron clearly doesn’t so I think it’s odd she would lie about her measurements when she’s trying to give girls a realistic message. But anyway she sounds very smart and on her page it says she studied at colombia university, she must have career ambitions outside of modeling. She is really pretty and should take advantage of the VS opportunity but after it’s over I’m sure she’ll find something she is more passionate about.

Liv
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Liv

I think she looks like she has a 23″ waist. She is very thin, look at her arms. But then again I also think she is more ruler and Candice has bigger b❆❆bs and a bit more of butt so her waist appears smaller because she has a more defined one then Cameron.

Casey
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Casey

Maybe she wasn’t speaking about herself but just speaking figuratively because a 23 inch waist is a standard in the modeling business?

I could read her comment in that way…if you read it that way, then she is trying to say that nothing matters as long as you meet the fashion industry’s pre-set standards.

Liv
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Liv

That’s how I read it. I tend to take things literal. It’s just funny how it can be the same thing but we read it different! haha

serena
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serena

Yes, it makes sense figuratively speaking, but not literally. It’s funny because that 23″ beauty standard set by the fashion industry is impossible even for most models, who are in turn held up as a beauty standard by the fashion industry. No wonder most women feel inadequate in their measurements!

Liv
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Liv

Agreed…

Ashley
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Ashley

I know…are these women really 23 inch waists?? I find it hard to believe as I am a petite 5’7 girl and a middle distance runner and my measurements at race weight are 34-25-35 so its weird…
I think she is an intelligent girl but at the same time I don’t believe they need to give these long “honest” speeches. The VS girls are genetically blessed, yes, but they don’t need to go around discussing it and their measurements.

neutra
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neutra

It really depends on one’s proportions… I’m 5’11 and definitely not as skinny as the VS girls… I have 40″ inch hips but my natural waist fluctuates between 23-24. I have friends of similar height who are very skinny with smaller hips than me but they still have wider waists. I don’t think Camerons is quite 23 IMO. Just a tad bigger, but it’s hard to tell because of her ruler shape.

Liv
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Liv

I’m 5’9 and very narrow… no hips at all, and no butt… I have that disease, noassatall… I have a 24 inch waist and I eat healthy and work out, not overly. But when I got out of college I stopped really lifting weights (softball player, pitcher actually). My eating patterns changed as well as my work outs (lots of Bikram now) and I dropped weight like it was nothing. But at my heaviest, and most built I had a 26 inch waist. I believe some people are just more narrow and other’s are not.

Faith
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Faith

(I dont know if this will end up under the right person sorry if its not) But I deffinetly dont believe she has a 23 inch waist I’d guess more of a 27inch waist possibly even 28 with 34inch hips? Shes a ruler shape and even on a short person a 27inch waist isnt big. I think models need to be more honest with there measurments. My waists 26 with 37inch hips but I am short arse at 5″5 and i still look kind of slim.

misscheeks
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misscheeks

Hey Faith, we have the same measurements! I’m a bit shorter though at 5″4. 🙂

aimeejaq
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aimeejaq

? i think shes smaller than candice.

La la la la
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La la la la

i would believe 23”. i think behati says she has 23” and her body reminds me a lot of behati.

kateuk
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kateuk

“But I deffinetly dont believe she has a 23 inch waist I’d guess more of a 27inch waist possibly even 28 with 34inch hips?”

If she had a 28″ waist, I doubt she would be working as a VS model. I can believe 23″, but looks more around 25″, but who knows? I think 34″ hips are about right. I notice a lot of tall skinny models can have what appear to be ‘curvy’ measurements, yet still look straight-figured due to their thinness, height, and long torsos.

HazeL
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HazeL

Her comments seem very intelligent and well thought out and I have respect for her admitting that it’s not always hard work like a lot of models make it out to be. I think it’s a good message shes sending out, that modelling isn’t a career you should aspire to, but if its offered to you then you may as well cash in on it. I find it sad when young girls think modelling is a career to aim for, if anything it should be a back up or a way of earning money and getting life experience before applying… Read more »

La la la la
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La la la la

i agree. i would believe many young girls think they can be a world famous model or actress and it’s just not reasonable for the most part. maybe one reason is that there aren’t that many famous female scientists, engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc to look up to. hilary clinton is great but i don’t think many average 12 year olds look at her and want to be just like her. i can see why a young girl would want to be a model, she thinks she’ll be rich and famous and all her worries will be gone, perhaps not realizing… Read more »

Kimmy
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Kimmy

I love her. She is so smart and level headed which are traits that typical dont go hand in hand with modeling…I hope she finds something better to do when shes done with modeling.

beth
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beth

I’m just not sure about her comments. She didn’t offer any type of solution rather than point out mere facts that the general public already understands but the fashion industry doesn’t seem to understand. I work in fashion and very closely with advertising (but got my BA and Master’s in Social Psychology) and I just don’t think she hit the bone. The way I interpret her perspective is that nothing can be done and the general public has to accept the “pretty”, skinny, white girl is the ideal. Stop fighting and hoping for diversity and that any changes can happen.… Read more »

Casey
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Casey

I agree with you that she didn’t provide a solution, but I wouldn’t say her comments are shallow or are not having any impact. For starters, as the article states, she received millions of views for comments. So even if people already were aware of this problem, it is bringing it into the light for discussion. But personally, I would venture to say that most people DO subscribe to the notion that to be beautiful you have to be tall and thin, and don’t see that as a “narrow definition of beauty.” I see it all the time on this… Read more »

beth
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beth

It’s not so much that the people who work in the industry don’t see the problem. It’s that many people who work in the industry have racist beliefs. I work in the industry and I know many people who hold the power to make or break a model or designer’s career. Many of them have antiquated and ignorant beliefs. Education and a license is not required to become a booker, casting director, creative director, stylist or editor. It’s very very easy to become involved in the fashion industry. No credentials or background checks are required. Many people who work in… Read more »

Liv
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Liv

So basically the people who run government also run the fashion and entertainment industry…. makes sense…

beth
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beth

Here’s some dirty laundry for you:
My boss worked on several campaigns for a hot, staple American designer with the same initials as the pop icon who sang “Thriller.” My boss has been arrested multiple times for coke possession and distribution.
The married woman who casts the previously mentioned designer’s fashion show frequently stops by our office to “hang out” with my boss. She also threw an ironic (self-hating) tantrum over the phone about how “no asian models can be cast in this season’s show. i can’t stand them.”

That’s only two people I work with.

Casey
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Casey

“Essentially, what I’m trying to say is that our universal perception of beauty is run by crooks.”

I can definetly agree with you there.

As I’ve said before, any industry that not only continues to hire but continues to IDOLIZE the talentless photographer Terry Richardson despite numerous sexual harassment accusations is dead to me.

If he worked in most other industries, he would no longer have a job.

artemis
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artemis

agree. that guys su.cks. and hehe, i never thought there was more to modeling than looking *good to some people*, a cliche.

artemis
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artemis

guy*. guess i made that mistake cause i wanted to also say ‘is g.r.o.s.s’

serena
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serena

Casey I disagree that most people subscribe to the 5’10/size 0 as the only standard of beauty. Some people do think that way (especially on blogs like this). But the general public doesn’t, as least in my experience – whenever I hear people discuss models irl, they complain models are too thin these days. Yes people favor the tall and slim body type, but not to an extreme degree. Traits like full breasts and a round bum are desired too. The avg American doesn’t pay attention to the fashion industry – ask a random person to name a model and… Read more »

Casey
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Casey

Sorry, did I say most? If I did, I misspoke and meant to say some…I agree, I don’t think most people subscribe to it. I think I’ve pointed that out before. I think most people like women around a size 2-6. I don’t think the fashion industry has that big of a reach, but they do have a significant one.

Casey
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Casey

Er, yeah I see it now. I definitely misspoke. Sorry!

serena
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serena

Ok that makes sense. But yeah the industry has a lot of influence. I remember that poster natalie who genuinely thought everyone who didn’t fit the standard was short and chubby and suggested Candice and Erin Heatherton to get lipo to fix their fat thighs. And I know someone like that irl too – it is kind of scary. I think people who work in fashion often have that warped mentality.

Casey
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Casey

I was actually thinking of that poster when I said that. 😛

lydia
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lydia

The only Afro bit of Adriana Lima is the fact that she has an olive skin tone. Her facial features are definitely European and her hair is of the bone straight variety that most Afro women do not naturally posses. If you take a look at the majority of Afro models working in print, they very much follow that same aesthetic — thinner noses, thinner lips, and smaller butts. The fact that their skin tone may be dark brown doesn’t really change the fact that they look like white women. I had a black Barbie when I was younger and… Read more »

serena
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serena

Your barbie point is interesting. Tyra Banks is one of the most successful black models and she literally played a barbie in a movie (Life Size). Liya Kebede also reminds me of a barbie (she’s Ethiopian). Alex Wek is the only black model I can think of who doesn’t fit the mold and stands out quite a bit. It would be nice to see more diversity in models; i’m persian and idk any actresses or models of my background (or barbies for that matter lol).

Nobsnob
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Nobsnob

True. Think Jourdan Dunn and Joan Smalls, they may have brown skin but they have thin and very caucasian features.
Chanel Iman has a larger nose and lips but she became successful because she has quite a baby face.
The only “true” black model I can think of is Alek Wek.

Liv
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Liv

I see both sides… of what you two are saying about what she said… I give her props for saying what it seems others will deny, but I think she offers no real solution… She just says “That’s how it is…” but if she wanted to make a difference she could give the industry the finger and get out and go speak all over the world about her experience and how she no longer engages in it because she doesn’t believe or agree with it. She could start a movement, or something. She was a VS model. It’s one thing… Read more »

beth
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beth

I’m betting the reason why she doesn’t want to “out” the industry is because then she will stop making money. She’s not a huge model and she gets most of her work based on her connections.

A lot of models out there know about the industry’s dirty laundry but they never talk about it in detail.

Liv
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Liv

Money runs the world… no reason to do what’s right if it’s going to cut into your own personal profit… Capitalism is a great thing, but it’s also horrible.

Liv
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Liv

I’d like to state… this is by far the best conversation I have been a part of on this site, personally! Very informative! <3… I love when all of us ladies are so smart, I love reading all the kick a– intelligent comments.

serena
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serena

@Beth when you say solution, what do you mean? Do you think the fashion industry will change physical requirements so models are no longer tall and thin? I can’t see that happening. While I don’t fit that ideal I understand why it exists. My only issue is that too skinny is no good and encourages unhealthy habits (not just amongst models, but girls who look up to them) and more ethnic diversity is needed.

beth
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beth

What I mean by solution is she needs to analyze the situation rather than just point it out. As a person who works in the fashion industry with experience as a booker at a top model agency in nyc and now at a top production company in nyc, there is more to it than she is describing. A solution could be if you, yes you, vocalized your ideas in writing to a model agency, the creative director at a well known brand and the president of a production company. I browse the blogs all day long while I’m at work… Read more »

Rainbowbright
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Rainbowbright

Okay, I’ll bite. I’m in psychology with a bachelors and masters as well, and fundamentally agree with you in that she didn’t “hit the bone” of the issue, but I think an important question to ask is, should we expect her to? Russell was using a platform that values pithy, concise presentations and she managed to explore hyperreality, body image, the social construction of a genetic hierarchy, and institutionalized racism in less than ten minutes. Furthermore, she managed to do so in such a way that her presentation piqued public interested, and more importantly, public discussion. In my opinion, that… Read more »

beth
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beth

There’s a reason why I decided to work in the fashion/advertising industry. I’m one of the very few in this field with formal education outside of design. There are a lot of complexities in this industry no one clarifies for the public. Yes, the these types of topics are covered by scholars at time but never with complete accuracy. I wasn’t happy with Ashley Mears’ take on the industry. I also wasn’t happy with Jenna Sauer’s take on the industry. Both were far too incomplete but it’s because they’re limited to one type of experience. The same thing is happening… Read more »

Casey
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Casey

For once, I really have nothing more to add to a celebrity’s comments. She’s right about everything. And I admire that she’s willing to actually acknowledge that 1) she is successful solely because of how she looks and 2) that she acknowledges that her looks fit a narrow definition of beauty. I’ve seen models admit to the former before, but never the latter. I’ve never seen a model say, “Although I’m a skinny tall white woman, skinny tall white women aren’t the universal beauty.” Most just say things like “It should be okay to be curvy/black/short/etc,” which is not saying… Read more »

Erica
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Agreed Casey – she’s right and so are you! The fashion industry and it’s fans seem to have this idea that their ‘ideal’ beauty is everyone’s ideal – which is just ridiculous. Brings to mind all those ‘debates’ with Natalia a while ago – *this* beauty is the *only* beauty and there can be no other! 🙂

neutra
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neutra

God Natalia was exhausting!!!!!

lc
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lc

Just meh.

jj
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jj

can anyone tell me where can i get that dress, pleaseeee ???

Isa
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Isa

Just some random things I took from this talk: Having a degree doesn’t automatically make you smart. If she has brains why doesn’t she try her hand at a more fulfilling career now that she is clearly in a financially stable position. Clearly fame and money are too important. Which leads me to think that perhaps this talk was also partly a move to gain publicity and to overall make more money. I think it’s great what she spoke about though and she was clearly nervous which made my heart go out to her. However I was very confused at… Read more »

Casey
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Casey

Maybe she doesn’t want to change it. Honestly, it sounds bad but I wouldn’t blame her. I think it takes a special kind of person to actually want to cause change despite being the one benefiting from the status quo. I would say 98/100 people would do the same. Some people call it being bad/selfish but I think it’s only human. Besides, there’s no guarantee that if she were to give up her source of income, and essentially her financial security, that she’d actually create some kind of change. For all we know, her comments will be popular for about… Read more »

Isa
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Isa

Just a bit extreme 😉

REGGIE
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REGGIE

Ok, i just want to make something clear. Being short does not equal having short legs, being chubby or anything like that. I personally don’t think height matters and would never judge anyone based on their height. I, myself am very slender and have long legs as well. That is possible, even as a 5’4 girl… 🙂

KatAnne
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KatAnne

I agree Reggie! I am also 5’4″ and my legs are long compared to the rest of my body. Also, there have been some people who thought I was taller than 5’4″ because my legs are long.

I also read on Twitter from “First World Facts” about the way estrogen works and how it apparently makes short women more attractive. I don’t know. But it was an ego boost!

Jewel
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Jewel

Haha! Same here! I’m 5’5 but I have long, slim legs and I’m mistaken as taller even by girls who are taller than me. I actually like that I’m not super tall (a very tall woman stands out awkwardly in a crowd imo) but I have great legs. Definately one of my best assets. Thanks genetic lottery!

Candy
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Candy

Im 6’1 and my legs make up 60 percent of my height. I don’t feel awkward, in fact its the opposite. The solution isn’t to do a 360 and say short women are more attractive and tall women are awkward or masculine.

kbaby
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kbaby

@Jewel: Standing out AND being confident is what you want when you walk into a room. The only reason anyone would be awkward is if he or she is not confident in his or herself.

KatAnne
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KatAnne

I watched her talk. She was very insightful and very articulate.

snoops
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snoops

Is what she is saying ground breaking news to any of us capable of independent thought? No, but she is SPOT ON and it is SO refreshing to hear a woman in her position, acknowladge, so eloquently, the situation. Love her and love this speech.

Velvet
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Velvet

Wow, she studied economics at Columbia University?! THAT is more impressive than having a 23-inch waist if you ask me! It’s right up in the league of Harvard and Yale.

lex
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lex

Family connections help a lot with that.

serena
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serena

Lol what family connections are those? On wiki it says she first went to wellesley, where her mother attended. It also says her mom’s friend got her into modeling so I guess family connections helped with her modeling career. But that wouldn’t influence her education.

Nina
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Nina

Her mom is very wealthy and successful.

lex
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lex

When your parents have money and are influential it helps to open a lot of doors. An example would be Ivanka Trump. She went to the University of Pennsylvania (Ivy League) and also majored in Economics. She may be very smart but having Donald Trump as her dad helped a lot.

Mia
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Mia

Her mother is the founder of zipcar, so obviously she has connections in the business world, and by extension, the business school at Columbia. .

serena
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serena

Ok but the impressive part is not getting admitted to college, but actually getting a degree there; I don’t know of any VS model who did that. I got into columbia too but never went so I that’s why I’m impressed by Cameron; I’m sure she’s very diligent and hard-working, just like Sonia Dara. As a VS model she could make millions on her looks alone! I hope after she’s done with modeling she’ll find something to be passionate about and make a difference in the world.

Mia
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Mia

I think it’s great that she finished college, especially when she didn’t really need to go. Truth is the majority of people who go to college do so because it is necessary for the job they want, not because they are truly interested in intellectual development. We could on the other hand argue that Cameron went to college SOLELY for the purpose of personal development, because she clearly doesn’t need that degree for her job. That said, I am of the camp that believes that actions speak louder than words. It’s great that she’s speaking out about this, but what’s… Read more »

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velvet

Actually, I think the “connections” thing in the school system is very overrated. Fact is, you don’t get into Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Brown or any of the Ivy League school unless you have top grades AND an impressive résumé. You can be the daughter of the president, but unless you have the academic qualifications you won’t be admitted.

Mia
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Mia

Meh. I wouldn’t discount the “connections thing”. A few years ago the Chronicle of Higher Ed had an interesting piece on the degree to which people pull strings to get family members of important alums into college. In fact, it even happened at some public universities, which are held to a much higher standard (since they are subsidized by tax payers). Private institutions don’t have to be as accountable to tax payers, and if anything, letting in the children of alums brings in more money. Thing is that the majority of students get in based on their merit, BUT, Columbia… Read more »

anushka
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anushka

Or maybe shes just smart and earned it. Its quite sad actually when it is directly assumed that you’ve gotten in due to family connections. Its the same story for any girl who’s family is particularly established. The girl will always be called ” the rich bimbo” Even if shes probably the most matured and smart in the group.

nessa
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nessa

at least she is being honest with herself. lolz nobody is hiring her based on if she went to college. Unfortunately the beauty standard now is stick skinny and looks matter. but I would say she isn’t the prettiest female in hollywood, and she looks older than 25. I hope I don’t look that way in two years.

Jennifer
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Jennifer

She has grown into such a beautiful women.

Daisy
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Daisy

wow I love it, so true.

Candy
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Candy

The thing is fashion models have always been slender, but 30 years ago the regular woman didn’t seek to emulate the fashion model. Today we have more women who seek this ideal, but it just takes one look on the comment board on this site to see the number of those women is exaggerated. The biggest problem I have with the fashion industry isn’t that they require you to be tall, but that there are so many racist people in it. You would expect a creative industry to be more forward thinking, but you also have capitalism tied into it… Read more »

annemarie
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annemarie

I agree. Just one thing that really bugged me, it’s Snejana O-N-O-P-K-A . I understand you don’t like her, but don’t twist her surname because it seems like you’re mocking her because she’s Ukrainian( I’m Ukrainian and the way you twisted her surname resembles one very bad word in Ukrainian).

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I really like what you guys tend to be up too. This sort of clever work and reporting!

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Anastasia.
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Anastasia.

Oh if this woman with her big bird looking beak is a winner of a genetic lottery, I’d hate to see what a loser of the genetic lottery would look like. Her face and body are equally unattractive, the only thing I guess she has going for her is that she’s white? Because she missed out on the feminine and young looking part. BTW, if all it takes to be a model is to be white with a 23 inch waist, why isn’t she more successful? First I’ve heard of her. And for someone railing against the standards of beauty/standards… Read more »

rosie
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rosie

Will take Arlenis over this woman anytime.

lex
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lex

I do like the message that she is trying to put across and I admire her for being honest but… I guess I don’t understand why someone who seems intelligent would want to be a model and not try to make a difference in the real world. Like her, I have a Bachelor’s degree in Economics. I wanted to do something that would have a positive impact so I continued on with my education. I got my Master’s and Doctorate in Applied Economics and now I have a career where I’m doing research that, hopefully, will benefit others. I guess… Read more »

jackie
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jackie

Maybe her plan is to use her body for cash first and get some fame along with it and then, when she retires from modeling, she can still build a career with her intelligence. Her body gets her fame and with fame comes having a “voice” / reaching out to people.

marie
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marie

Iintelligent, confident and well spoken. The world needs more women like here. Add in beauty and damn, amazing! It saddens me that women on here are going on about her waist size and not getting her message. Does it MATTER if she’s 24 not 23? Did you bother to read the article and what she’s saying? I live in Asia and it is amazing the amount of bleaching skin creams and laser treatments they have here. Add in the eyelid fixing, the nose jobs… This world is full of women trying to be something they psychically can never be. Give… Read more »

Mia
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Mia

I agree. Some of the comments here are clearly perpetuating all the problems that she herself identified with the fashion/beauty world. Who cares what her waist size is, and whether she is beautiful or not? that’s NOT the point!

serena
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serena

The reason I brought up her waist size is to point out the fact that even models being held as the standard of female beauty don’t have the l 23″ waist the fashion industry declares is perfect. Basically the standards are so ridiculous even models have to lie about their measurements to fit them.

Audrey
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Audrey

I think her honest view on the modelling industry is nothing new or special. It is obvious that a small segment of the earth’s population lives a very privileged life.
Common sense is not so common. People must talk about the same unimportant issues in order to preoccupy their uneventful life.
Ultimately, she is trying to portray an image to the public that she is a well-rounded individual, and say in a nice way to all of us,average joes, that we are just unlucky.

mystic
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mystic

She’s nothing special, she’s just lucky to be born tall and slender. Small waist, its not even defined. Facially she’s masculine with a big nose, she is her biggest fan me thinks….

serena
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serena

She reminds me of Shenae Grimes, that girl from degrassi and 90210.

callie
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callie

Way to dispel the dumb model myth! I’m impressed, although it seems unfair that she lucked out on the genetic lottery AND got to be smart too!

Ara
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Her face is way too unfortunate for a model, she reminds me of a horse. Compared to your average girl she’s pretty yes, but for a model, mehhhhhh.

retrobanana
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retrobanana

not seeing it with this one and the comments didnt sound so great to me either….

alice
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alice

I think her comments just show what a shallow view of modeling she has. It does take a kind of intelligence and soul to be truly inspiring in front of the camera. The best models channel the muses. She doesn’t seem to have ‘it’, whatever it is, so it doesn’t surprise me she got there on nepotism more than her yeesh looks.

Kate
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Kate

Absolutely loved her entire speech. Anyone dissing this is just proving her point. Women need to f**king stop hating on each other and being so competitive. She’s too fat.. she’s too skinny…No wonder we’re all so self conscious. What happened to love thy neighbour!? Rant over!

caracara
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caracara

Face is pretty. Great height, great waist & upper body, lower body is a little too thick for my tastes.

sindy
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sindy

Versus, please do a post on VS model/ SI model Jessica Perez, thanks

SophiaAthene
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SophiaAthene

Firstly, she definitely has a 23 inch waist because it says so on her agency comp card. It states her measurements as 32 23 32, which is why her waist looks more like 24 inches. Her waist to hip ratio isn’t very good as there’s only an eight inch difference between her hip and waist measurements. I personally don’t think she has a very nice body type. No hips at all and no shape. Too straight imo, and I rarely say that about anyone. I don’t think her face is all that attractive either for some reason. Striking but not… Read more »

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Observer

at first glance it LOOKS as if she has good points but she’s just rehashing olf misconceptions in absence of context. It’s stupid to lament the Western fashion industry using white models mostly…DUH. Also, what’s this nonsense about being “biologically programmed” to find something admirable? Christ, some things just look more attractive than others universally and it isn’t as if many people don’t complain about models with figures like hers being too extreme. Being slim has never been a novel thing for heaven’s sake. Lack of food must’ve messed with her brains or her PC poli sci degree failed to… Read more »

Soph
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Soph

Yeah I agree. I resent how she is going on about how she won some genetic lottery. IMO she looks far too thin. And honestly I really don’t think the majority of women aspire to be so long and sinewy. I love being small, my boyfriend likes me being small and said he does not get the fuss when girls post pictures of VS girls on facebook, thinks they look way too skinny and too tall for his taste. So you know someone elses’ boyfriend probably goes crazy over their bodies but each to their own. I don’t like Cameron’s… Read more »

Observer
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Observer

oh and her privilege statement is old news…everyone knows women with certain looks have it easier than others. Who hasn’t heard of/experienced situations where you see that? She thinks no one else knows this? Lord

Observer
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Observer

Forgot to say she is too damn full of herself…how the hell is she making a positive impact on the world by indulging and participating in the very thing she supposedly opposes? And being white in the Western world working for the fashion industry is the norm, not a privilege…that’s their main ccnsumer. Why did this even get attention?

Soph
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Soph

Honestly, she has contributed to a corporation that makes money of making young girls hate themselves. I think she should quit modelling, or shut the f up.

Observer
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Observer

exactly.

mic
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mic

I don’t quite get this whole 23 waist. Anyone? I have been making clothes for few years now, and for a girl in height range 5′ 1″- 5′ 3″ to have 28 inch waist is normal (most of my clients) and these girls are not fat by any means. The skinny ones usually have 25″-26″ waist , and still talking in the height range of 5′ 1″- 5′ 3″ . And these girls are skinny like no fat hanging around the stomach. SO, I cant quite imagine how someone thats like , say– 5′ 11″ has 23″ waist, wont it… Read more »

PinkLadi
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PinkLadi

i believe it could happen, i’m 5’11” and nobody’s definition of tiny, but i am slim and have a 25″ waist. she looks like she has a small frame (I’m a medium build) and has a pretty low bf%. having that small of a waist at that height isn’t common, but i guess that’s why they’re picked to be models.

veeeeev
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veeeeev

It’s refreshing to have someone like her say the things she’s said. Regardless of whether her waist is truly 23″ or not, she’s made a very good and obvious point that many models don’t address. This sort of honesty is what we need more of.

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