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Daily Mail: ‘Gwyneth’s Bikini Body Screams of Neuroticism, Men Like Lumps, Bumps and Wobbly Bits’

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Ouch-worthy title! The Daily Mail wrote a detailed piece on how men aren’t fans of Gwyneth Paltrow’s fit and thin bikini body and how they prefer softer, curvier bodies with ‘lumps and wobbly parts’. Considering that our Gwyneth’s bikini body post received an overwhelming and atypical number of highly positive comments, I thought that you guys might be interested to read a completely different perspective:

Let me tell you, ladies, we men are turned off by skeletal chic…

While Gwyneth, with her willowy figure, exercise addiction and macrobiotic fussiness, seems to drive most ordinary women insane with resentment, most men are oblivious to her wan perfection.

We happily flick through the paper until we hit upon a small shot of Mad Men’s Christina Hendricks’ ample bosom, or Kelly Brook buying wallpaper while wearing a large sheepskin coat.

While Gwyn is proud of her taut, yoga body, men aren’t enthused. Men don’t hang around in pubs talking about how many sit-ups their wife can do. While shots of the stick-thin Gwyn might appeal to women, men prefer lumps, bumps and wobbly bits.

Gwyneth, bless her, has no jiggle. She is gawky and rake-like; puritanically thin.

To a man, this screams of neuroticism, a fear of being out of control. This is the opposite of all the qualities that make a woman attractive; confidence in her body, a love and lust for life, and sensuality – rather than an obvious terror of being even the tiniest bit out of control.

Definitely a debatable piece, must share your thoughts!

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Helena
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Helena

Yeah, men want “normal” women- just like Kelly Brook. Man, chicks like that are everywhere!

Seriously: Most of Gwyneth’s remarks annoy me and maybe she is too obsessed with being perfect, BUT she looks good! Not too skinny, fit and rather healthy.
Isn’t Fashion Week in London right now? Why not raise question about healthy, “normal” women there?

giulia
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giulia

agree. this article had no value what so ever. and its offensive.

there are lots of women who love to work out and take care of themselves and are built like this with the genetics to STAY this way for a while.

bd53
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ya this kind of offends me, because if it is true, that sucks for me. although i think they’re exaggerating a little, cuz everyone has their own preferences. but i’m built rather like gwyneth, not super thin, but slim and more muscular than a lot of women… so is my mom. i would love to have big b❆❆bs and a big butt to flaunt but i don’t and i hope men don’t have just one standard of beauty.

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

@bd53 – No we don’t have just one standard of beauty, and please don’t take what this guy is saying as proof that you will not find a man who finds you attractive and will want to be with you. If you are obsessive about your figure and don’t know how and when to balance life out, let your hair down and have fun, then you might have a more difficult time, because that type of attitude is simply a turn off. That’s part of what the article is trying to get across.

Kimberly
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Kimberly

I like this comment. One thing men really hate is an insecure woman who obsesses over her body. It really is a turnoff.

bd53
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I understand and appreciate what you’re saying, but this article assumes that women of Gwenyth’s size or smaller are neurotic and terrified. Which is offensive. I don’t know why I made myself sound unsure in the last comment… I know for a fact that many men don’t find this type of woman “rake-like” and neurotic. Like I said, everyone has their preferences.

Vee
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who cares what men want!

Crissi
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Crissi
I don’t think the article was meant to insult women. It was actually trying to give a confidence boost to women everywhere, and let them know that men are attracted to women who can relax with a nice, full meal and are not constantly obsessing over their body images. From experience, I truly know that the vast majority of men are NOT attracted by obsessive behaviors or insecurity. It is far more appealing to them to be around women who are comfortable with themselves – because only when you are happy with yourself can you truly be happy with another… Read more »
mel
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Well I hate steak, and I love running, does that mean I’m neurotic? I actually love salads and healthy food (although I have the occasional indulgence!) – that’s just the way I was raised, I come from a super healthy family. Does that make me less attractive to guys? I don’t think so. I hate how guys automatically think a girl who eats healthy is neurotic and weight-obsessed. Maybe we just prefer it! The last time I forced myself to eat a burger I felt positively sick!

Kimberly
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Kimberly

Yes actually it does. You are hijacking threads with talking about yourself. It comes off as obsessive and it’s not attractive in the least. It’s so off-putting that I’m coming to this site less and less. Do you have anything better to do than talk about yourself all the time?

nina
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nina

hi mel, ignore kimberley, is she doesnt like your comments then she doesnt have to read them!

kimberley, you want to start fights, go to a bar or just go away.

thank heavens people never react to this nonsense.

Casey
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Casey

I agree with nina. I think you’ve been vocal about your opinion, but so have many others on here. It seems that the above user disagrees with you and therefore is singling you out, when right below any one of your comments is a person doing the same thing, but they just happen to hold a different opinion. I’m kind of shocked because that user is usually one of the more open-minded and respecting people on here, but whatever.

mel
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Thank you so much Nina and Casey! I will try to discuss myself less because I don’t often realize I bring myself into it as an example. But I really didn’t mean to come off as self-absorbed, and if I do, I wish you knew me in real life so you could judge me better because that’s not how I am at all. And Kimberley, if you don’t like my comments, sorry, but I won’t stop posting just because of you.

Casey
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Casey
Honestly mel, reading your comments, I didn’t get the feeling that you were being self-absorbed. I think people are trying to police this thread and saying things like THAT’s OFF TOPIC, or YOU TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT YOURSELF, more as a way to criticize differing opinions than out of any legitimate reason for saying those things. This thread has almost 500 posts. All sorts of points are being made, and a lot of people bring up personal experiences to kind of explain their point or where they’re coming from. And sometimes little side notes and side conversations. I don’t see… Read more »
mel
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Sometimes people don’t understand the way you do, which is unfortunate. And I did look back on all my comments and I do realize how they could be interpreted that way, even if that was not at all my intention. It’s hard for me to remember sometimes that people don’t know me besides my comments on here and that’s only what they judge on. In particular, this article really got to me because I felt personally offended, and thus felt I had to individually justify myself. I do try to stay relevant to the topic though, and thanks for the… Read more »
aj
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I kind of agree with Kimberly. I am probably hypocritical, but it seems Mel whenever there is a comment about what men like and it doesn’t fit what I know from many a comment your figure is like, you get very defensive. I understand why you do it, and I probably do it to in defense of my own body type. But I can see where Kimberly is coming from.

mel
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Well, aj, I think I am actually pretty tolerant. Kimberly is addressing me being obsessive and self-absorbed. There’s a difference between being conceited and defensive. I admit I am a bit of the latter, but I don’t think I’m self-obsessed. Also, have you ever seen me bash a curvy woman? I have yet to have someone point that out to me. I appreciate a wide variety of figures, most recently I commented that I liked Kelly Brook’s body and expressed appreciation for Rihanna. And if I don’t like someone’s body, I never say they are ugly, I just say they… Read more »
aj
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No I’m not saying you aren’t tolerant. You come across as defensive about slim people, and again I’ll say I understand why you do it, because you’re slim. I was just saying I understood where Kimberly was coming from.

mel
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OK, I understand what you’re saying now. As long as you’re not trying to pin me as obsessive, just defensive, I don’t really take offense with that. I can comprehend that, and even admit it’s true to a good extent. At least you had the tolerance to not phrase your comment like Kimberley did.

Gre
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I totally agree with you!!! I mean I love veggies and stuff lake that and I hate people who say you don’t enjoy ur life if u eat like that, but u know what, they’re only jelous because u have a better body. At school in the morning (in Italy we’re at school from 8 to 2) I have some fruit, and everyone talked abt me and said I was obsessed… And now everyone in my class eats fruit!

AK
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I totally agree with you… Why can’t I just enjoy the food I like (salads and healthy food). Do I have to eat something I don’t like to not appear as a neurotic person? There are people who enjoy healthy food and exercise just as there are people who enjoy junk food and watching tv.

Rowen
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Rowen

i agree entirely with your assessment.

Rowen
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Rowen

*Crissi, I agree entirely with your assessment.

Crissi
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Crissi

Thank you!

Aria
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Aria

I don’t think this article has no value, but I do think that it’s misguided in the idea that women base what they want their bodies to look like solely off what men think of them. It seems the writer is saying that Gwyneth Paltrow shouldn’t be so skinny and fit because men don’t want her to be, and Kelly Brook and Christina Hendricks should stay the same because that’s what men want a woman to look like.

When are men going to wake up and realize that not everything we do is based on what they think of us? 🙂

Dana
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Dana

Yes, she looks good and curvier women looks good as well. Bless the differences.

Dana
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Dana

*correction curvier women LOOK good as well sorry x

Jamie
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Jamie

I get it. “All men” is a tad to much, but I get it.

Jamie
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Jamie

too*

Callie
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Callie

Christina Hendricks and Kelly Brook are hardly body types that all women can aspire to either. Unless you’re a natural hour glass, most women won’t look like that. And they might be curvy, but they’re still slim – no wobbly bits there. I hate articles like this… I think women look best at their natural weight and shape… it shouldn’t be about looking like someone else. Gwyneth looks great and so does Kelly Brook, but you don’t have to look like either of them to be attractive.

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

@Callie – Don’t think the article said that women should all look like Kelly Brook and Christina H. His point is don’t obsess about it, carry yourself with confidence and sensuality, and you won’t have much to worry about. Obsessive and neurotic behavior is a turn off for many guys.

Sharen
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If that was his point, than he should of expressed it that way.

gaby
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gaby

i have to agree with callie. he definitely insinuates that men like women with meat on them. well for some woman it’s impossible. i have a figure like gwyneth’s and for me to get wobbly bits it would look bad. i don’t get it in my b❆❆bs or butt, i get it in my gut.

bd53
Member

exactly. if you’re built like kim k, you might look good gaining weight… just more voluptuous. but if you’re built like gwenyth and gained weight, your probably wouldn’t look like the marilyn monroe type, but your natural muscles would just get flabby and your weight would be less likely to go straight to your b❆❆bs or making your butt look better.

Jessica
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me too! i wish i could gain weight in my b❆❆bs and get bigger hips but it wont happen. all weight goes straight to my stomach

mel
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Yeah but you forget that some women WOULD gain in the right places and just CHOOSE not to. My weight probably would go to my hips and b❆❆bs (as I have the basic hourglass shape), but that doesn’t mean I’d want to gain weight any more than if I was a ruler!

Cathy
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Cathy

So what’s he saying ? That men like big b❆❆bs ? … woah …

Quite an earth shaking relevation , don’t you think ?

Ophelie
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Ophelie

The article is just downright mean. I think GP looks amazing and healthy. They also wrote really nasty things about Olivia Palermo recently. They are really harsh. GP doesn’t look any thinner than VS models. I’m sure if the Daily Mail snapped Alexa Chung in a bathing suit they would have a field day.

Sharen
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I know, it’s incredibly mean, I’m amazed they would publish something like this, it’s totally uncalled for. First of all, I find the article totally insulting towards Gwyneth, she isn’t even that skinny, she’s just normal slim, there are tons of women her size. Yes, she does have small b~~~~, but so do most women. Are they trying to get everyone to buy huge implants or what? And her body does not scream “fear of being out of control” or anything! She is rich and has tons of free time, she can totally afford to calmly take care of herself…… Read more »
Ida
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amen!

Pinky
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Pinky

I couldn’t agree more.
This article is insulting to many women. Besides, they believe that women are losing or gaining weight or we dressed one way or another to appeal to men? They seem to be woman-haters.

Jessica
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i think it’s mean as well. i don’t happen to be blessed with b❆❆bs or hips and this made me feel like i am unattractive at all to any man because of it. naturally, my body is not the “soft curvy” type. im more athletic and muscular by nature. believe me i have tried to gain weight in all the right places to be that perfect hourglass looking shape, but it just won’t happen. having felt pretty bad about my natural athletic build and lack of b❆❆bs lately, this article made me feel really bad actually. just like we shouldn’t… Read more »
anon
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anon
I’m sorry this article made you feel bad about your body BUT! I don’t think you should feel bad at all! You’re lucky to have body type that is usually idealized by popular culture =). But I think he was pointing to the fact that Gwyneth goes to extremes to keep her trim figure and tries to go against nature’s aging process by doing extreme diets and hours of exercise. So I guess you’d be going against your own nature if you tried to gain weight by eating loads of junk or binging! I wish this article had been written… Read more »
Jessica
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you’re right..the writing could have been better…thats a much better way of looking at it 🙂 thanks

ajt
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I totally agree with you. The intent of the article seems to be pretty good, but the writing makes it seem a bit to generalized. If the writer had mentioned more than just women with an hourglass figure it would have come off better. I think what he was trying to point out is that Gwyneth Paltrow’s main focus in life seems to be diet and exercise to the point of obsession. From the way many of my guy friends speak about ladies I have gathered that they are ok with wobbly bits. Not heavy, unhealthy bodies, but they don’t… Read more »
anon
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anon
Yeah, I got that from the article as well…I doubt a guy or a girl would care if their significant other had a bit of pinchable fat unless they themselves were very strict about their lifestyle as well and same goes for the fact that if they didn’t have any fat at all and were just slim by the blessings of nature as long as they weren’t obsessed with either gluttony or with superhuman health lol. I think the main point I got from the article besides the superficial crap was that don’t become a crazy nit picky mess over… Read more »
mel
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“I’m sure if the Daily Mail snapped Alexa Chung in a bathing suit they would have a field day.” That made me lol. I’m sure they would. Probably would go completely crazy too with every chance they could to bash her. Well, she’s a celebrated fashion icon and you’re a ….?? And I can see this from both sides, because I’m thin AND somewhat curvy (as in, if I gained weight, I would probably be an hourglass). But I DON’T CARE if that’s what men prefer (and it really isn’t!) because I would prefer to be slim and athletic. I… Read more »
Halle
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Halle

I thought being an hourglass was something that was maintained even at a lower weight? For me, I can be very thin and still be a visible hourglass, because I have big b~~~~/hips/butt/small waist, and that doesn’t really go away. And if I gain weight, I still look like an hourglass. Actually, I think it’s more apparent when I’m thinner, lol. Anyways, I was just wondering, I’ve never heard that before! 🙂

mel
Member

Yes, I see what you’re saying, and you’re right! I should have phrased it better. Atm I look more like a vase even though my basic shape is probably an hourglass, but I don’t really look like one because I don’t have large b❆❆bs or a huge butt! You’re lucky you still have that a low weight, most hourglasses can’t maintain their b~~~~/butt after a certain point.

Halle
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Halle

Haha thanks, I think vases are so lovely.

Anne
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Anne

i totally agree wtih you! you know once a man told me something like “your b❆❆bs could be bigger” and i told him theyre fine the way they are, then he said “well thats what a man wants” I really hate it how guys think that women are living just to please men’s ideas of sexy, i want to look the way i want, not every woman wants to have huge b❆❆bs and butt, thats a stereotype

Nkeon
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Mel, I’d just like to point out that you would’t necessarily have to eat unhealthily and stop working out to become a full hourglass. Just as it is ridiculous to assume you need to starve in order to lose weight it is also ridiculous to think that KFC is the only answer to weight gain. Healthy and substantial weight gain takes healthy diet an exercise as well. You need to gradually increase your calories, eat nutritious food and protein and work out with weights. I’m not saying that you need to gain weight (I don’t even know what you bloody… Read more »
mel
Member

Yes, I agree with you Nkeon, as I usually do. But I think for me it would be a bit unhealthy because I am already eating the recommended amount and distributions for my body type. But I do agree, for certain people, it really isn’t unhealthy! It’s all down to body type.

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

@Versus – Pleasantly surprised to see such a thread, and I can’t wait to see the responses.

This article reiterates what I have been saying for a while now. Of course it’s not ALL MEN that feel this way, it’s the MAJORITY. So get that right ladies before you start going off on the writer for painting with too broad a brush.

Sharen
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The majority feel what way exactly?
That they like b~~~~? Of course.
That they like Kelly Brook? Probably.
That skinny and/or fit women are unattractive? NO. That is not a majority, at least not where I live.

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

@Sharen – No. The majority of men simply have a preference for curvaceous female bodies that are not too thin. Lots of internet evidence to back that up.

Priscila
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Priscila
But the thing is… WHO CARES WHAT MEN WANT? Don’t you think women should try to please themselves? Should women change their bodies, healthy, self- esteem to please men? What is this ? Why should men opinion be put in such high position? Why some “journalist” felt he was entitled to criticize this woman’s body as an example of what is wrong with women? Why would Gwyneth care if some ignorant dudes in a Pub doesn’t find her attractive? Some women are lesbian, some women are assexual, some women DO fin men who loves skinny girls, some women Do find… Read more »
lc
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Amen Priscilla. Who cares what they want?? I’ll be thin and fit if I please, and a man wants a heavy girl, then he can have her.

snoops
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snoops

agree with you 100% priscilla!

ajt
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I do agree that all women should do what they feel is right for them. I think that maybe the writer was just trying to say that women shouldn’t obsess about looking like Gwyneth Paltrow. And that while being healthy and fit is great, being obsessive or feeling bad about your body shape just because that is what is in magazines and ads is not. I don’t think the writer was knocking skinny women or telling people to stop eating healthy and working out. It seems like he was just saying don’t get so hung up on looking like the… Read more »
Marc
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Marc
Male speaking. Hi, ladies. Let me first say that my sister and I are both ASTONISHINGLY skinny. I’m 21, 5’9, and the heaviest I’ve ever been is 111 pounds. Yes. Now Priscila, I’m sure you mean well (‘SING IT, GIRLFRIEND!’), but I got probs with your comment. You say, “Who cares what men want…why should men opinion be put in such high position?” Well, it’s not that MEN’S opinions are so important, but rather that, believe it or not, the opposite sex’s approval is universally sought (psst, if you didn’t realize, this is why our species hasn’t yet died out).… Read more »
anon
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anon

RIGHT ON!

Priscila
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Priscila
HI, your first argument were discussed by another person (Casey) in this post and I couldn’t say it better: “A lot of men think that women think like men, that women are obsessed or strive to get all the men. This is a male-dominated view…it’s men that try to get all the women, but women…we just want one, high-quality man. That’s all we need to make us happy. I could care less if 99% of men found me unattractive as long as I knew that one man did, and he was a good man, a man that *I* find attractive.… Read more »
mel
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Agree 100% Priscila. Maybe attracting men isn’t her #1 lifetime goal? And it’s not like she’s incapable of attracting them either …

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

@Priscilla – Women are in constant competition with each other over body image (as we see on this site), clothes, sense of style etc. One of the things that they also compete over is the attention of men. Is that not true? So at some stage in their lives, maybe not all the time, they do care, and care very deeply.

Correct me if I am wrong, cause hey, I’m just a guy right.

mel
Member

Well, how I see it is, body is not everything. I don’t want to be the person who goes “the majority of men like blah” or whatever, but I think most men prefer face over body. So when it comes to competition, as long as you have a decent bod, a killer face pretty much wins it for you.

Right now, I’m lucky enough to be in an environment that appreciates and celebrates my type of body, so I wouldn’t say I care too deeply.

Priscila
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Priscila
You are wrong. I’m arguing with you about body image. Are we competing to get men attention? Are you discussing with the only purpose to prove that you can attract more men than me? I already argued with men about fashion, sense of style, etc.. were we competing to get more male attention? If you can discuss body image just because it’s an interesting subject why do you think women are so simply minded and sexually motivated that they can only be arguing because they want men? Also, you forget many women are lesbian, celibate for religious reasons, assexual or… Read more »
Zoe
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Curves rule- Most of your comments that I’ve read (on this post and some others) seem to generalise men’s opinions and put all/most men in the same ‘box’. For example you seem to use the word ‘we’ a lot in referral to men- “We do generally prefer curves…” and you stated that “The majority” of men prefer ‘curves’ to a slimmer figure. How do you know what ‘the majority’ of men prefer- unless you make a point of conducting large scale surveys on men’s opinions on women’s figures? Asking a few of your mates whether they prefer skinny or curvy… Read more »
mel
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Zoe, you expressed all my sentiments 🙂

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule
@Zoe – I can use the expression “the majority of men like curves” because it is backed up by scientific surveys. Here is one of many links that you can find on the internet. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2372/is_1_41/ai_n6032938/?tag=content;col1 Many on here interpret this to mean that if you don’t have a curvaceous body with a whr of approximately 0.7, that you are somehow doomed to never be attractive. If they would only stop and think about the fact that there are millions of men in the US (for example) and even if the minority of men is represented by say 30 or 35%,… Read more »
mel
Member
You seem to contradict yourself a lot, no offense. First off you say that around 30 or 35% would find slim bodies attractive. OK, but all your points have been about guys NOT liking slim bodies. You seem to be addressing me when you say that some women think this is a kind of attack against them, and let me clarify: I only think this way because of the way you phrase it. I do think it is true that most men like the .7 WHR. But that is a shape, not a size. And you don’t have to keep… Read more »
CurvesRule
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CurvesRule
Mel, my point was basically that there are a lot of men out there who will find slim women attractive based on a first impression. They are in the minority according to the studies, but lots of them exist. No contradiction there. In terms of the rest of your comment, and I know you will not like this, but it basically boils down to the truth will offend sometimes. And this is one of those cases. Sorry. Based on those studies Padma Lakshmi, and Maria Menounos will get more admiring looks than GP and Olivia Palermo, if they were all… Read more »
Casey
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Casey
CurvesRule, This is what I mean when you contradict yourself. You’re having a really, really hard time differentiating between SIZE and SHAPE. The research study you keep mentioning, talks about SHAPE, not SIZE. Olivia and GP wouldn’t get as many looks in a bar as Maria Menuelos, not because they are SLIM, but because they don’t have the right WHR. Likewise, if Maria Menuelos lost a whole dress size, becoming the same size as Oliva and GP (because really, they only differ by one dress size), she would still get a majority amount of looks in her direction, because she… Read more »
mel
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Casey you nailed it. If you look closely, CurvesRule, we do agree that WHR is attractive. But you seem to be associating slim with curveless, which isn’t necessarily true.

Curvesrule
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Curvesrule

Ok. So I needed to clarify my use of the word “slim”. I am in deed referring to women who don’t have the hourglass figure. As I said in a previous thread, size 2 to size 16 women have caught my eye because they have the curves in the right place. So I stand corrected on that.

Daisy
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Daisy

That’s so true, its a fact of life, men prefer women who have meat on them. I don’t know one man who finds super skinny women sexy, maybe they think they are cute, but not sexy. Curves are sexy, bones are not.

bigvinamac
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curvesrules, no matter what you say the article was offensive. if this was the other way around you would not like it and defend the curvy girls because that’s what you prefer. but when it’s thin women, you tend to generalized and think that’s what a man wants. i’m like a lot of women here, who cares? i’ve been thin all my life and still had men trying to talk to me so all that b.s on what men want is crazy. it’s like when a thin woman express her opinions about something she’s been through we’re constantly shut down… Read more »
Mrs. L
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Mrs. L
A bit to read, but here it is! I do think that her figure is quite thin, too thin in my opinion. The reason alot of women will compliment figures like hers and even underweight figures like Miranda Kerrs, is because women strive for this- alot of men do like that feminine look, like Christina Hendricks! We as women are our own worst critic…men see a little pooch on our stomach, and most don’t care! we see it and think it is the end of the world. We have wide hips…we freak, men see it and think dang, bet she… Read more »
mustang
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mustang

well said!

ajt
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Totally agree. Well said.

CoCoBalm
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CoCoBalm

This will not end well…

Bri
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haha

Sen
Guest

Well it’s scientificly proven that men prefer bigger b❆❆bs (because they recognize quicker it is a women, since men don’t have them 😉 )
But I can’t speak for all men, so I don’t know. I love her body, men may prefer her body to be a little softer, which I can understand..

Kad
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it seems to be now a days women who are in great physical shape are being attacked, also here basically the daily mail are just saying men dont like women who are in control/ are power driven…. dont listen to a word of it gywn- girl power!

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

I don’t think its an attack, it’s a statement of preference. I think the women who have thin bodies feel attacked when numerous people don’t prefer their body type.

lc
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“Neuroticism”? Sorry, it sounds like an attack to me. That’s like calling a fuller figure woman gluttonous or something. I think you need to get over “I think the women who have thin bodies feel attacked when numerous people don’t prefer their body type.” Heavier woman probably feel the same.

Priscila
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Priscila

I think half of the article was very sexist. Almost like “wow this woman is controlling, men do not want, we like soft/easy/nice women, do not became a b*tch”.

Casey
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Casey
Priscilla, I agree. I don’t know if sexist is the right word for it, but that’s what I was trying to say below when I said this man is insecure. Because he lacks confidence in himself, he wants his women to be down, less independent, more submissive. He is threatened by women who take action and put in effort to do things they want to do. He may actually find soft figures more attractive, but now he feels the need to make sure all women stop working out. Why? There aren’t enough soft women in the world that we need… Read more »
CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

Casey, I think you are reading way too much into the writer’s use of the word “control”.

Casey
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Casey
CurvesRule, I’m reading into the writer’s severe case of a-holeness. He put himself out there, so I am commenting on his opinion, which I have expressed: he’s an insecure man who tears down women that threaten him so make himself feel better. There are men like that who attack women of all body types, and all of them irritate me because I have seen what it does to women. I don’t know what it is that men value about themselves…intelligence, p—- size, whatever, but if someone constantly told you you were inadequate in whatever you value, until you felt like… Read more »
edith the elf
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Casey and Priscilla – you are both spot on. The man who wrote this article is obviously threatened by women who don’t fit into his ideal of “soft, supple and there to serve the needs to men”. Women should look good to make themselves happy, not to please some ridiculous commenter on the Daily Mail. Urgh. The whole article he wrote makes me incensed.

Casey
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Casey
Yes, but see, that’s the thing, I don’t think the majority of men are turned off by a figure like Gwyneth’s. We are not talking about a high fashion model here, where it is obvious that the majority would favor someone larger. Comparing Gwyneth to Kelly Brooke is also not fair. Kelly wins, not because she’s larger, but because she is blessed with a small waist, big hips and big b~~~~. I see a lot of times you use studies to back up your own taste, but, it seems to be that what your taste actually IS, is a little… Read more »
Priscila
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Priscila
“A lot of men think that women think like men, that women are obsessed or strive to get all the men. This is a male-dominated view…it’s men that try to get all the women, but women…we just want one, high-quality man. That’s all we need to make us happy. I could care less if 99% of men found me unattractive as long as I knew that one man did, and he was a good man, a man that *I* find attractive. Men can try to turn this around as much as they’d like, especially insecure men, but girls, remember, in… Read more »
Mystic
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Mystic

Yeah men just like to play with our minds and of course some fall for it, but Priscila is right its us women that choose not the men, remember that.

skinnyrules
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skinnyrules

????? it’s a statement of preference ?????

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

sorry – this is not an attack? – what else?

Lisa
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Lisa

No I agree. There’s still this mentality that being healthy means you’re one of “those,” a crazy gym rat who eats only salad and drinks protein drinks. I think the modern world – not just the US – has a really skewed perception of wellness and fitness. I don’t like Gweneth, but her body is just fine!

Zeka
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Zeka
Well, it depends on the guy. For example, the men I know don’t really care if a woman has extra fat or a little stomach pooch. They can’t stand when women are constantly belittling themselves and are obsessed with being thin. That being said, I know a guy who prefers very thin, model-tall girls because he’s a very gangly, 6’5″ thin dude. Also, I remember seeing an article in Cosmo about the difference between “guy hot and girl hot”. All the women that other women voted as hot were much, much thinner than the ones the men chose. Do I… Read more »
CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

@Zeka – Agreed. Good comment.

rach
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rach

well said. I agree that we can be our own worst enemy.

Zeka
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Zeka

Thank you. It’s not that thin is a bad thing, at all. It is whenever you have to force yourself to be thin to fit someone else’s ideal. Screw what the guy wants. It’s your body and your life, and therefore your decision.

mel
Member

Well, likewise, we shouldn’t force ourselves to be softer, like this author is suggesting.

ajt
Guest
The writer’s body type preference aside I think the underlying message is a good one. Whatever size, body shape or weight a woman is they should be happy in their own skin. We should be able to enjoy all aspects of life and not hold back because we fear something. Especially, if the thing we fear is not meeting the crazy standards media has placed on women today. Everyday skinny women are told they aren’t curvy enough and curvy women are told they would look awesome if they lost a few pounds. The writer’s comments on control didn’t seem to… Read more »
Anne
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Anne

“ajt” thats not the message of this article at all! its basically bashing all women who are athletic and if theyre not “curvy” or whatever the author said, then men dont like that, let me tell you theres plenty of men who would prefer an athletic body and that would catch their eye, the author is trying to make his/her opinion a fact

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

Mel – I think the article speaks to women who are already softer and curvier. He is clearly saying that based on male preferences women in this category should attempt to do the relatively excessive things that GP is doing in order to obtain her figure.

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

should “not” attempt

Fazla
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Fazla

I wanted to write a angry comment first (pointing out that not all men like the same features in women and that the writer of this article must be a very inpolite man) but then I read the whole article and once you ignore the polemic, it’s great.
What I get from the article is that women should be more relaxed, because men love us regardless of our looks!
BTW, I think her body looks great 😉

Mary
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Mary
If a woman is OK and feels good with her figure, WHY THE HELL a man has to go and tell her that he likes her this or that way?? one word: machism. What they really are saying is that women should conduct their lives and selves by men’s taste. And that is objectifying women. What other reason would they say that about Gwyn if she, in many interviews, showed she’s happy with herself? And if they love those lumps bumps and wobbly bits so much why do they drool about skinny models or look aside when their woman is… Read more »
Kad
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i kind of have to agree… in newspapers theres always talking about womens bodies for the men, page three for the men…. i either want this to stop, or some kind of media where girls can criticize men’s bodies for a change, see how they like it when they start worrying they don’t look like some guy or need to change!!!!

Priscila
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Priscila

haha. agree.

Sharen
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So true.

Priscila
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Priscila

agree.
And the part where once again ~fashion world and their gays are the ones to blame for those silly ideas women have~
First they assume every men in fashion world is gay and hate the shape of a woman’s body, then they say women are so stupid that they would accept anything a designer would tell them to be.

Anna
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Anna

that is not true!!! men prefer Gwyneth’s body over Christina’s. Well, the biggest part of men.
and guys do care when women put on weight, they really care!
in my opinion, guys would like to date a girl , who takes care of herself, dont eat like man, and looks good.

laura
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laura

how would you know who the larger part of men prefer? no disrespect intended, just saying.. however, i definately hear more men saying how hot christina hendricks is.. cant remember ever hearing about gwyneth paltrow..

Sharen
Guest

I agree, men talk more about Christina than Gwyneth, but that’s just because she’s less…how do you say it? eye-catching? But it has nothing to do with her being thin and fit, as this article says. There are other thin women, who men mention more often than Christina, like Adriana Lima. Honestly, I would never have heard of Christina if it wasn’t for this site.

Mia
Guest

I agree. Christina has more sex appeal than Gwyneth, but that has nothing to do with weight. I can think of plenty of skinny actresses who ooze of sex appeal and men LOVE them (Alyssa Milano comes to mind, also Mila Kunis, Jessica Alba, the list oges on…). There is something very cold about Gwyneth, which is possibly the reason she isn’t considered a sex symbol in hollywood.

anon
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anon

totally agree!

Mystic
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Mystic

men would prefer gwyneths body with bigger b❆❆bs and bum, they want the barbie doll ie. skinny with curves, but that doesn’t really happen that often in the real world.

mel
Member

Yes, I agree! I’d even go so far as to say that THE MAJORITY of guys (at least in my experience) would rate skinny and curvy over every other body type.

Halle
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Halle
I can name at least five guys I know who find Christina Hendricks unattractive. I know my brother was actually more attracted to Gwyneth than Scarlett Johansson in Iron Man 2! This is just an example of how there is NO way to determine what “most” men want. “Most” men want a healthy, attractive, woman who looks womanly. Thin women fit into this category. Curvy women fit into this category. Two extra cup sizes does not instantly make a woman more of a woman, or more womanly. Women have a distinct look that can be quickly separated from the way… Read more »
Mary
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Mary

PS: and if gwyns body screams neuroticism, if we follow that sequence of thought, everyone who takes good care of themselves is neurotic. Then, Megan Fox, Miranda Kerr and other women men , in general, consider hotties are neurotic. why do they like them then?

Mrs. L
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Mrs. L
I’ wondered once, why in the world Miranda Kerr was so popular, especially after those pictures surfaced of her that sparked anorexia questions…and one boring day I looked on askmen…and to those men polled, it was her face that took the lead, not her strikingly thin frame. Models are fantasy…I think that also is the appeal to alot of men, not necessarily their figure. Granted, yes there are some men who prefer that long lanky look, but it is not the norm amongst every male. It is my knowledge however that most men do like softer curvier looks. Whatever though!… Read more »
Pinky
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Pinky

Why is so popular? Because Orlando Bloom. Orlando is super-famous and anything related to your life will be popular.

Anne
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Anne

I agree, i really was shocked that miranda was so popular with men (not saying shes ugly but i was just shocked cuz i didnt think shes a choice that would win polls like that) but they put pics of her in a photoshop lingire shoot with a push up bra and guys were like shes perfect, so basically girl in lingire + pretty face will be popular with men..

Charle
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Charle

Ițm inclined to say they wrote something so negative/provocative just for popularity sake.

Sanne
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Sanne
I can cry of happiness right now. I’ve had an eating disorder and I’m really recovered for like 8 months. It started when I was 15 and right now I’m almost 23. I’ve always thought that female in media (Hollywood girls, high fashion models, etc.) had a normal body. In those years of my ed I’ve seen women in the media shrinking. So when I lost weight, it wasn’t enough, cause they also lost weight and I didn’t come close to their bodies (in my mind). Sometimes I didn’t dare to go out because I was afraid that people would… Read more »
Sanne
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Sanne

Oh and btw, I actually love Gwyneth’s body. But when you have to do a lot to own a body like that (to make it your lifestyle and when you have to give up a lot) I don’t think it’s worth it.
It’s easy to say it’s all about the inside, but actually that’s what it is. When you feel comfortable on the inside, it will be shown on the outside.

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

@Sanne – Glad to hear that you are recovered, and I totally appreciate your honesty in describing the negative influence that stemmed from the media. I am a guy, and would reiterate that it is all about balance and confidence. We do generally prefer curves to the thin and straight figures that are common in the media.

mel
Member

Just sayin’, not all thin figures are straight. You can be a thin hourglass too. I hate how thin and curvy have to be mutually exclusive. You can be BOTH. And I know a lot of guys like slim and curvy (Megan Fox, Adriana Lima, Candice Swanepoel) over thick and curvy (I don’t know any guy I’ve talked to who likes Beyonce), but then again this could just be my area.

Jillian
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Jillian

Yeah. Could be. You seem just as biased as the author of this article you seem to hate so much…

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

@Mel – Do you actually expect posters (especially the ones that disagree with you) to address your particular situation in all of their posts? Because no one has time for that.

mel
Member

OK, sorry, I was not attacking you, I was pointing it out. And no, it’s not just me, from what I’ve read there are plenty of girls who are skinny and curvy on this website, so I was speaking on their behalf as well.

Anne
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Anne

Imo it doesnt matter how skinny or big u are, as long as theyre proportionate, then they have a nice body

Sanne
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Sanne

@ CurvesRule. Thanks for your comment on mine. It’s really kind.

kell
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kell
I think the last line to thi article is very true: “To a man, this screams of neuroticism, a fear of being out of control. This is the opposite of all the qualities that make a woman attractive; confidence in her body, a love and lust for life, and sensuality — rather than an obvious terror of being even the tiniest bit out of control.” This article is really not all that bad. I completely understand how he says women (most) strive for this look: abs, thin, etc and exercise a lot and eat “perfectly” to achieve this look. Us… Read more »
anon
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anon
I totally agree with you! I think I’m still trying to find that balance between eating healthy and letting loose! I used to be overweight in high school and changed to a lifestyle of very particular eating habits and lived off granola bars, nuts yogurt, salads, and fruits for a couple of years in my early 20s. I wouldn’t even touch any type of beer…then I had a complete change of heart. I got bored of the monotony. I was also in grad school and was in a new relationship so I started eating out and drinking out. I put… Read more »
mel
Member

But what would he say to Alessandra or Miranda, even Adriana? So many guys are in love with Adriana, and she doesn’t exactly have “wobbly bits.” And there’s a difference between being not interested (like your boyfriend) and going out of your way to completely target an entire sector of women. Your boyfriend didn’t feel the need to go on a tangent about how Gwyn was horribly unattractive and neurotic, whereas this guy did. This DM writer obviously has some issues.

Halle
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Halle
Honestly, how many women do you see that have the bodies of Kelly Brook or Christina Hendricks? I haven’t seen one. I’ve seen many women that are thin and curvy, but they don’t have extreme curves like the women mentioned in this article. It’s understandable that many (not all or most) men like curves, but I don’t believe women should base how they look on what men want. That’s just pointless and a waste of time, and the woman herself will most likely not be satisfied because she is attempting to please someone other than herself. And how in the… Read more »
Erica
Member

I agree. Very curvy hourglasses are uncommon and shouldn’t be pushed as ‘ideal’ any more than tall, thin model types should be. Ultimately it doesn’t matter, just as you said, body types don’t define a person!

Halle
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Halle

There are also thin hourglasses, which the author seems to forget. I don’t mean bones sticking out or anything like that, but there are women who are toned (not overly so) and curvy. They can still be soft without going and gaining weight to reach Kelly Brook or Christina Hendricks size.

mel
Member

Agree, Halle and Erica.

Sidney
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Sidney
I couldn’t care less what they think of Gwyneth’s body, if they prefer “wobbly bits” and frankly just curvier bodytypes, but the part about neurotism and such is complete bs imo. Loving life… I can love life and myself whilst maintaining a fit body. And i certainly won’t be hating on men if they want to excercise and take care of their body. But, all in all, when i feel good about myself and like i’m doing my best, i don’t fret over what men think, it would be pointless, and i hardly think that is high on Gwyneth’s list… Read more »
madeline
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madeline

Well,Paltrow is known for strict fitness-regime ( it s not healthy if it s done too ifte and excessive) and her neurotic behaviour with food.So I think they talked about the personality they associate with women like her.And I gotta say,they have a point.

Jane
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Jane

who isn’t? I read on Health.com today that 51% of polled women would give up a year of sex in order to be thin… another study revealed that something like 90% of women think mean things about their body (aka “your thighs are hideous” or “you’re such a fat pig”) every single day. so I think that well over 50% of women in america are obsessed with their body, not just GP.

ali
Guest

Its funny bc men dont criticize bodies like Miranda kerrs, Alessandra’s and all the other skinny VS models, which are skinnier than Gwyneth. Miranda looked anorexic at one pt, but w.e

kell
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kell

women come in all shapes and sizes, just like preferences for them do. I am tiny (5 foot, 94 pounds, little boobies and little booty) and my boyfriend loves my body!

Annie
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Annie

That article was either written by an overweight, jealous woman or an ugly, single man who could only dream of being with an attractive woman. Because finding fault with a person of any gender who chooses to keep him or herself in top physical shape is simply ludicrous and base.

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule
@Annie – While some of the comments in the article may stoke resentment among many women because of the way that it’s written, I don’t think that you can deny that there is a lot of truth in the actual content. For example, would it be more fun to go to a nice restaurant with your girl and be able to select anything on the menu, share great tasting entrees, and not have to worry about the calorie count….hell yes. Can you definitely say that neurotic and obsessive behavior is not displayed by some women whose lives are all about… Read more »
Jen
Guest

But just because someone is slim doesn’t mean they’re neurotic. I’m slim but if I went to a restaurant I’d eat whatever I wanted, as would every girl I know. It seems that the whole world has bought into this idea of two extremes – skinny women with eating disorders and overweight, ‘normal’ women. People come in more sizes than just fat and skinny. Just because a woman doesn’t have massive b❆❆bs and bulges doesn’t make her skinny/

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

@Jen – Never said that ALL slim women were neurotic. I used the word some. Was my statement inaccurate?

anon
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anon
I think neurotic in a sense that if they miss a work out …they beat themselves over it or if they have to absolutely eat a certain type of food all the time idk it’s like asking for guiliana asking for egg whites without butter because she has a butter allergy when she def doesn’t! that’s pretty freakin crazy! not sure what gwyn does everyday but I do know she went on fast that consisted of eating only one meal a day, which is somewhere on her GOOP website. I don’t think all skinny women are neurotic or obsessive ;a… Read more »
mel
Member

I agree Jen, I am naturally skinny and eat quite a bit. AND I don’t like unhealthy food. Why are you trying to force me to eat a burger if I PREFER the salad? I LOVE salads, actually. I could eat them everyday. Avocado, Asian dressing, wontons, yum yum … back to the point, don’t judge because we’re skinny, love yoga, and eat salads. We’re not neurotic, it’s just our lifestyle.

Casey
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Casey
You know what mel, I thought I was the only one to actually prefer eating salads. For the longest time all I did was eat burgers and pizza so when I allowed myself to eat salad, it was just so tasty and fresh. I can’t believe anyone would say it is neurotic to watch what you eat. There is a difference between completely flipping out over a drop of oil, like Guiliana Rancic. But it is not neurotic to keep tabs on how much you’re eating, what you’re eating, what nutrients you’re getting and cutting back/including more when needed. We… Read more »
jessicamarie
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jessicamarie

i feel like the author is talking more about women that go out eat a steak or burger or chocolate dessert (whatever) and then talk about how they need to work it off and oh i never shouldn’t have eaten that i’m going to get so fat. things like that annoy guys (and girls to listen to). if you prefer salads, eat them. i think guys just don’t wanna listen to girls talk obsessively about food.

lc
Guest

I absolutely feel the same mel. I’d honestly take a salad over a burger ANY day. And I do.

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

@Mel, Casey, lc – Maybe I asked too many questions in the post above, so I will ask just one.

Can you definitely say that neurotic and obsessive behavior is not displayed by some women whose lives are all about being thin?

Try to stay on topic ladies. One thing that is common about your posts on this thread, you are not addressing the content of the article.

Casey
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Casey
“Can you definitely say that neurotic and obsessive behavior is not displayed by some women whose lives are all about being thin? Try to stay on topic ladies. One thing that is common about your posts on this thread, you are not addressing the content of the article.” I am staying on the topic of this article, I just don’t agree with you, and am drawing what appears to be a different conclusion from the article than you, and am talking about it from my standpoint and how I see it. I can say neurotic and obessive behavior is displayed… Read more »
lc
Guest

How’s this for staying on topic?

“Try to stay on topic ladies. One thing that is common about your posts on this thread, you are not addressing the content of the article.”

LOL. Are you for real?

I am going to try to evade responding to you now; what seems to be common in YOUR comments on this post (and many others) is your need to be chauvinistic and condescending.

I do agree to mel’s point though:

“don’t judge because we’re skinny, love yoga, and eat salads. We’re not neurotic, it’s just our lifestyle.” Period.

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

My point here was simply that there is some truth to the article. I also acknowledge that neurotic behavior can be displayed by women of all sizes, not just skinny women.

Mel – as we all know you are a naturally skinny girl. So this article was not aimed in your direction. You did not need to take it so personally.

mel
Member

Sorry, but I DO feel as if it was attacking me. I mean, the writer called Gwen gangly and puritanically thin, and I look to be a similar size. That is insulting, naturally thin or not.

Sharen
Guest

I agree about the obsessive behavior, and I have no problem with him stating his preferences, but he (or she) does so in a very rude way, towards Gwyneth and women in general, and acts as if he speaks for all men (pretty much the same than yourself). Personally, I like men to look like Brad Pitt 20 years ago, should I now write a rude garbage-like article about how unattractive most men out there are to all women?

And by the way, women aren’t just here to be underneath your stupid sheets and please you.

Fazla
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Fazla

great comment, very well said!

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

@Sharen – Go ahead and write your article. You will quickly learn that we are not as emotional about such topics as women are. And that is just a fact.

And I don’t think the article or any of my posts ever said that women simply exist for men’s sexual pleasures. It’s used to educate female readers about how we make choices. How is that offensive?

MissCute
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MissCute

Thank you for that comment! unfortunately, some men think that our desire to lose/gain weight is only to please them! but why should women care about what they think? If I want to look toned it’s because that’s the look I like, thus I will be more confident in my body.
it saddens me when women say “men prefer softer, curvier” or “thinner and fit”, who cares what the majority of men prefer? state your opinion as an individual, whether you’re a male or a female, regardless of what the “majority” think.
and LOL at the Brad Pitt part:P so true!

mel
Member

Not all skinny women are a sack of bones, I have plenty of muscle and a fair amount of curve, thank you very much. And why do you think skinny women would be no fun to take out to a restaurant? I ALWAYS eat the most out of my friends. I even ordered six desserts at one sitting. How do you like that?

Barbie
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Barbie

Stop explaining every little thing. And anyone who has to say “I ordered six desserts at one sitting” has issues. If you like how you look and what you eat to acheive it then so be it. Get over yourself.

Annie
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Annie
When I go out to a restaurant, I enjoy my food immensely. My family of four just spent almost $200 dining out on Sunday at a top-notch restaurant. I’m in my forties and in the best shape of my life. You’re confused about taking care of yourself and being neurotic. There is a balance, you know. For the writer of this article to classify a woman as neurotic because she cares for her physical body displays his own inadequacies and ignorance. Let’s not forget that Gwyneth is payed handsomely to look a certain way, and if she doesn’t look that… Read more »
Nkeon
Member

If your woman feels like a sack of bones between the sheets then she is probably dead and that would explain her inability to satisfy you; wouldn’t it?

anon
Guest
anon

lol nkeon!

lc
Guest

Haha Annie I was thinking the same thing…

Peach
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Peach

That article makes me feel sick. It’s not about thin or thick or curvy, not really. It’s about policing women’s bodies and confirming that their SOLE purpose is looking attractive to men. They don’t give a hoot about whether or not Gwyneth – or any woman, for that matter – is healthy, however they try to frame it; they only care about whether she looks what they deem to be sexually appealing.

I’d expect nothing less from the Daily Mail.

laura
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laura

hardly. its more discussing how women shouldn’t care if they’re not as thin as gwyneth, clearly? how women shouldn’t feel like they should work so hard to attain such a body?

chelsea
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chelsea

Peach, I agree. What right does he have to A) judge what women are attractive or B) assume she is fit because she thinks it’s attractive. Perhaps (and in her case, I believe) she is thin because she cares about bein fit, healthy and happy. That’s how it manifests itself in her.
Though I am on this site and can’t comment about publicly judging a woman’s body, I will say I hope a strong woman’s response to a comment telling her that her body isn’t what most MEN would want, would be “who cares?”

lc
Guest

Peach and Chelsea-AGREED.

Priscila
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Priscila

agree 100%

edith the elf
Guest

Agree with Peach and Chelsea — the social control of women and their bodies should stop. Women should have the autonomy to make their own choices and their own descisions about what they look like, free from the moral condemnation of some ignorant and chauvanist-pig writer.

solaxia
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solaxia
Edith the elf- i agree with you. But i also think that women make it worse. This is also what I have talked about before regarding the sexual equality of women being taken too far. Now mens mag models and p— stars and singers baring all are the norm. They are more popular than ever. It’s past the Madonna liberating stage, and is now all an act for men. Every woman (pretty much) could get into a mens mag and that seems to define which women are ‘hot’ and therefore ‘more worthy and wanted.’ There is a fine between liberation… Read more »
Mary
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Mary
that is exactly my point! If there is anything that makes me furious is when men try to tell women what they can or can’t do, especially regarding their figures. There was a guy , some time ago when I was a little above my normal weight, who, ironically when he was trying to date me, told me to go eat a salad instead of a steak, because I was getting a little chubby. Of course he never had a chance with me again, and that’s not because he called me chubby, but because of his attitude. For me, it… Read more »
IHeartCurvyWomn
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IHeartCurvyWomn

I think the guys who wrote this are being harsh/overexaggerating on purpose, just to get a point across; especially wen most men feel women exaggerate/ are too harsh about expectations for their bodies.

Nash
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Nash
Honestly, I don’t see anything new, interesting and intriguing in this article. Because I have read this. I have read this comments and it doesn’t inspire me anymore. The writer is obviously against too thin women – but I don’t think GP is too thin. She clearly has muscle and is toned and fit and the fact she’s at the age she is and has the body she has, is admirable. I am not the fan of these cliche Hollywood diets, of course, nor am I a fan of the exhausting and painstaking workouts everyday. But GP has always been… Read more »
Nash
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Nash

these comments*

madeline
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madeline
Evey man has a different taste.Some like it skinny,some curvy.But it is a scientific fact that,when men are ready to settle down,they tend to find a curvier one attractive than a skinny one – because they usually connect a woman with hips and a waist wih children-material and with their own mother. But every guy finds it more attractive if you can enjoy food -not salad,food – because a woman which can enjoy a parfait without freakin out or instantly thinking”how many minutes on the treadmill is this” are sensual,not so controlfreakish,they can enjoy life. And some friends of mine… Read more »
Fazla
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Fazla

Would you mind to share the source of that scientific fact? It’s not that i think it’s not true (although I doubt it), but I just think that it’s hard to proof such a thing scientifically.

Gigi
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Gigi

I would like to know too! How on earth do you prove that lol.

Natalie
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Natalie

Well I dont like Gwyneth but I would choose to have her figure over Christina´s.I would hate to live with those massive b~~~~.

Nkeon
Member
Oh please. When they say they prefer ‘wobbly bits’ they blatantly mean b❆❆bs and bums (that wobble and jiggle even more than flab). If Gwenyth Paltrow was her current size but with massize b❆❆bs and a big butt men would love her as much as they do Meagan Good and Jennifer Metclafe (she doesn’t really have b❆❆bs but she has the waist and the booty). We always hear these statements about preferring women with curves but what they really mean is that they want hourglass figures. Most men really don’t have a clue and seem to think all women put… Read more »
amazon
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amazon
because you are right- men really don’t get the shape thing. they do however get the difference between big b❆❆bs cause you are fat as opposed to being like Kelly brook. in fact I think there is a charming group on facebook highlighting this difference. men in my experience are as varied as women in their tastes, but if i were to generalise i would say they like the obvious. take your top off and let them take a picture of you and most men will appreciate it 🙂 do serious films and talk about macrobiotic food and they probably… Read more »
mel
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Yes, but unfortunately most women would probably take this as a cue to eat that extra burger and not hit the gym. Not saying they should be obsessive about it, but still, it’s promoting the wrong idea. And I completely agree about the hourglass figures, although not all men love big b❆❆bs or big butts – some like small b~~~~, some like small butts, some like long legs, some even like feet, etc. etc. I think women who are overweight and ruler or apple-shaped will take this the wrong way and think that even that extra pudge around their middle… Read more »
giulia
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giulia

i dont think you intended to be funny,but it was a fun post!

i think youre spot on!

Nkeon
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mel that’s exactly what I’m getting at! Men don’t all lean towards one ideal – hence why I wouldn’t encourage any woman to take this article to heart – however, the men here that are supporting this dude’s idea about not minding wobbly bits are clearly pointing at curvy proportions hence the mention of Hendricks and Brook. And you are right: women that don’t have small waists and curvy hips must be fed up with men and the media saying that they prefer women with meat yet they only feature the Beyonce’s and Hayek’s of the world. I don’t even… Read more »
Jessica
Member

you’re completely right. he really just should have either phrased things better or kept his mouth shut. saying that he prefers a more natural look is insulting if thats not your “natural” look. i am one of those who doesnt have a super defined waist or curvy hips and this really did offend me personally. i’ll try to take it more lightly next time. not that any of this garbage should be allowed to be published again…

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule
Nkeon – Your comments are always insightful. I must confess that I am one of those guys that uses curvy and hourglass interchangeably. I don’t really like labels so I don’t pay too much attention to them. I have one question for you though. Don’t you think that this message of “men preferring meat” is becoming more conspicuous because of the strangle hold that the “thin at all costs” message has had on many young women? And this is not about the naturally thin girls, it’s about those girls who are average in build and weight thinking that they have… Read more »
Jessica
Member

i think it definitely has something to do with wanting to get people away from being obsessive about losing weight. it is obviously a huge problem with a lot of women, and there have been a lot more movements to encourage being natural and unconcerned with a “perfect” body in the last few years. i think there is definitely a connection

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

@Jessica – Agreed.

Casey
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Casey
Men can have as much body issues as women, so I hardly give a damn what a “man” would think when “he” is criticizing a woman who looks hardly unhealthy but looks like she takes care of herself. If it bothers these “men” so much that a woman cares about her health and makes an effort to live longer, if they’re so insecure about themselves that they can’t handle seeing that in someone else, then quite frankly, they are not “men,” and I’m pretty positive women like Gwyneth would not even look twice their way because they would not be… Read more »
lc
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Agreed.

mel
Member

I agree with all of your points. It only reflects the insecurity on his part. And trust me, DM writer, have no fear, for the neurotic Gwinnie won’t ever look your way.

Ellen
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Ellen
“That’s where this backlash comes from…the fact that these “men” are really not up to these women’s standards, so they feel the need to lash out because they are intimidated by these women who take control of their lives, who strive to be above average, etc. ” Honestly, you can’t speak for all guys. And if Gwyneth is really as obsessive about her diet as some commenters have said she is, then I can get how that can turn a guy off. I know a lot of guys who would prefer a laid back girl with confidence rather than a… Read more »
Casey
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Casey

“Honestly, you can’t speak for all guys.”

Who said I was speaking for all guys?

I specifically, repeatedly stated that I am talking about a particular type of insecure male that the writer of the Daily Mail article represents. No, the majority of guys are well-adjusted, confident in themselves, and therefore do not feel the need to tear women down as a way of getting women. Really, if you’re defending tearing down women’s self-esteems as a commendable dating strategy, then I don’t know what to say.

Ellen
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Ellen
You shouldn’t get on me for putting words in your mouth if you turn around in put words in mine. Where did I say I’m defending tearing down a woman’s self esteem? All I said was yes, some guys can get turned off by obsessive behaviors and 0 confidence. Just because they state that they don’t like it doesn’t mean they’re all pigs and are insecure and purposely want to tear women down. I wasn’t defending the writer, rather I was trying to defend men against your rant… which, by the way, I re-read your comment and you never explicitly… Read more »
Casey
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Casey
Then perhaps you should reread. I love men, most of my friends are guys, I have a loving boyfriend of 3 years now. But I have little tolerance for men who don’t fix their own issues but instead transfer them onto others, in this particular case, against women, taking advantage of the fact that women fret over body image and using it against them. That’s why I repeatedly used phrases like THESE men, and I even put men in quotation marks. How you interpreted this as a tirade against all men is beyond me. I specifically made it clear that… Read more »
Ellen
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Ellen
My apologies. I can see where you’re coming from, but at first (and apparently second) reading it I just got an overwhelming man-hating vibe. I would still put the notion out there, however, that not all men who proclaim their disdain for “neurotic” women and their eating habits are automatically insecure. Obviously, this douche mover is. But what I was saying in my comments is that some guys don’t know how to articulate it because it is a touchy subject, but most guys I know don’t like it when a chick is obsessive about eating habits. They freak out about… Read more »
Casey
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Casey
It’s okay Ellen. Sorry I snapped at you. Maybe you did get a man-hating vibe, but, at least, that’s not how I feel. What I do feel is extreme irritation and anger for people like the writer. I’ve written two stories already about people like that, one a personal experience, one a friend’s experience. I have hundreds more, and it just makes me so angry when I see/hear women feeling like crap because they were told they look bad, not because those people actually think those women look bad, but because they intentionally just want to bring them down. I… Read more »
Ellen
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Ellen

Generally why I avoid sites like “the superficial” and apparently this site like the plague. I’ve read the most horrible things said by guys. And I’m sorry that you’ve had to deal with stuff like this that is so personal. I actually was one time able to get a guy to admit that he was hating on this one girl’s looks just because she had turned him down for a date, so I do think you have a point about the insecurity thing. Hopefully it’s just the major douches like him (and this one) that are capable of that.

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule
@Casey – So can you actually discuss the content of the article instead of trying to paint the writer as some insecure man not worthy of female attention? Are you ok with “detoxing” after a family vacation? Is it ok to b— and moan about the slice of cake you ate yesterday? Is it ok for a woman to turn her life inside out, simply to obtain the body of one of her favorite movie stars? Isn’t the article providing a positive message to women who don’t have what many in the media would call an “ideal body”. Are you… Read more »
Casey
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Casey
CurvesRule, I am discussing the content of the article. I’m choosing to address a different point from it than the one you are addressing. This doesn’t mean I am not on topic. I am also not trying to paint the writer as anything. The writer has put forth a certain part of his personality, a part that I don’t like, with good intention and good reason. As for the rest of your comment, no I am not okay with any of those things and for you to imply that I am okay with any of those things is ridiculous as… Read more »
CurvesRule
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CurvesRule
Casey – I never implied anything. I simply asked article-specific questions to try to focus the discussion on the content as opposed to the writers character. A common tactic used when people don’t like a message, is to attack the messenger, and I think you are doing a little too much of that. Just my opinion. This guy did use harsh polarizing language, but that is to be expected because he works for a tabloid. That’s how they sell their paper. If you could look past all that tabloid fluff and simply focus on the message to women, I think… Read more »
Casey
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Casey
CurvesRule, I like the message, I don’t like the messenger or the delivery. There are positives in his message, if it had been worded the right way. But because it wasn’t, there are negatives as well, and in my opinion the negatives outweigh the positives. I feel that because you agree with the general premise that the writer is supporting (curvy is better), you are arguing for him in all respects, at the expense of the damage that the other side of his message is sending. I feel like you are failing to see that my backlash against the author… Read more »
CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

The thing is Casey I don’t think the article provides enough evidence to prove that the writer is a man who does not feel good about himself. Correct me if I am wrong, but you have placed him in that category simply based on this one article. I think we can agree to disagree here.

Casey
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Casey
Yes, we can agree to disagree. But the thing is, I feel like you are trying to convince everyone that the article is right, good, etc. Earlier you told me to take a look at all the comments where women have expressed how good the article made them feel. I looked at them…all 15ish of them. Now I urge you to take a look at all the comments where women were hurt or offended, one way or another, by the article. I’m going to guesstimate, but there’s 100 unique comments expressing that. Can you really say that the article is… Read more »
lc
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I agree with Casey. This is BS. Who are these men to say; they kind sound insecure to me. I don’t like Gwyneth, but I say, go Gwyn! Keep up with your healthy lifestyle and you look great.

Casey
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Casey
It is insecurity. It reminds me of an ex-bf. When we started going out, he was really fit and athletic. A lot of things happened and basically he became kind of depressed, and got a little chubby. As he got a little chubby, he couldn’t stand seeing me talk to other guys, and proceeded to insult my slimmer-than-his body. Eventually one day, when he said I needed to gain weight and he should give me some of his, I straight up said, “I look good, why would I want your extra weight.” And that was the end of that. Same… Read more »
lc
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Exactly. I’m guessing these men feel threatened by Gwyneth’s discipline and fitness or something, as did your ex-bf. In bashing her figure and proclaiming to want flabbier figures, they are displaying the controlling behaviors, not the woman.

Casey
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Casey
Exactly. But it works the other way around too. My friend’s ex was this scrawny guy. And I say scrawny because he had no muscle because he was a major cokehead (probably not the best choice of bf, but love is love) and lost most of his body weight because he did drugs all the time. My friend has the figure that seriously looks like a reincarnation of a Greek statue…really long shapely limbs, small waist, soft curvy figure, porcelin skin. This guy launched an attack on her, starting with alienating her from her friend’s, alienating her from her family,… Read more »
mel
Member
I’m not arguing with your point, but I do know plenty of guys (and this may not sound believable, but it’s true) that think size 8 is fat, but they aren’t verbally abusive/don’t attack people who are that size. Does that still make them insecure? I don’t really think so. It’s just their opinion, and they would never be outright offensive about it to that person. It’s just like some men think size 0 women are too skinny, but are nice enough not to call them emaciated prepubescent boys. I think it’s not the opinion that makes you immature, because… Read more »
Casey
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Casey
Oh I know a lot of guys that would consider a size 8 fat too, although I will say that the friend in question, because of her height, carries it very well, she looks normal, like Gemma Arterton, not actually fat by any means. My point was not the a-hole guy’s opinion, it was the fact that he repeatedly told her she was fat and unattractive until she believed it, when before she had no trouble getting guys’ attention. He tore apart her self-esteem because he was a failure at life and because she was better than him. He was… Read more »
mel
Member

I agree, he reminds me of Daniel …

Ellen
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Ellen

NOOOOO I thought that “guy” was gone forever!

Just a curious question… how long has everyone been on SvC? I’m familiar with the regs, but it’d be interesting to see how long we’ve been doing this

mel
Member

Hmmm I started commenting probably one and a half to two years ago, but I’ve been browsing this site for a while, probably 3-4 years. It’s unfortunately become a bit of a habit with me haha 🙂 I spend way too much time on here! I still remember when bigV and Anya were pretty much the only regular commenters. I know bigV and Casey have been around here for a while, others have come and gone.

lc
Guest

I’ve been on for a few years.

anon
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anon

I don’t know many men who know about women’s sizing from my brother and his friends who are all late 20s to early 30s to my bf and his friends who are in their 20s as well.

anon
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anon

maybe more so on just their overall appearance and size? Like if a size 8 is equated to a 28 inch waist and 38 inch hips then they might think that is too big but wouldn’t really equate that with the size itself.

kate1st
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kate1st

“maybe more so on just their overall appearance and size? Like if a size 8 is equated to a 28 inch waist and 38 inch hips then they might think that is too big but wouldn’t really equate that with the size itself.”

On paper maybe, but a 5ft8+ woman with those measurements would certainly look slim. And tbh, guys that think a woman with a 28 inch waist is too big tend to be pretty scrawny themselves and don’t like the idea of women being the same size or bigger than them.

anon
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anon

agreed kate1st, i think people who see someone that is a normal weight for their height as being fat and actually being medically “fat” are two totally different things! And some guys can distinct btw the two while others can’t!

anon
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anon

I wonder why he chose to pick on gywneth as opposed to someone like cameron diaz who looks like she is more controlling …just if you compare their figures side to side

mia
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I think he’s basing it off of how she comes off when she talks about food to the media. I don’t think the author meant anything about size, but about attitude. I took it to mean that men look for a girl that’s warm and fun as opposed to being cold and rigid and attitude towards food and body are major indicators. I don’t think the author is insinuiating women shouldn’t be healthy, but he is saying be healthy, but reasonable. How’s a guy going to take a girl on a romantic vacation when she’s more worried about her yoga… Read more »
anon
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anon

I agree, I’ve been commenting on this post a lot. i read up on gwyn from her GOOP website and she seems so out of touch with reality…but I guess she is a high paid celeb and can afford to get cardiologists to monitor her diets and cleanses heh…

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

Casey – So that’s where those opinions come from. But please note, just like there are skinny girls and overweight girls, and many many in between, there are insecure guys and well adjusted confident guys, and a whole bunch in between as well. Your experience may have taught you otherwise, but it doesn’t mean that some of the well adjusted confident men in the world don’t have these opinions.

Casey
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Casey
CurvesRule, What opinions would those be? That neurotic dieting is unattractive? I can honestly say the majority of men don’t find that attractive, with confidence that I’m not exaggerating statistics, whether or not they are insecure. It’s annoying. It’s annoying when someone goes, “Oh, I can’t have a bite of that cake,” because to anyone who has knowledge of biology and nutrition knows that one bite isn’t going to kill you. Or do you mean that men prefer curvier women with meat over women like Gwyneth? Aside from size, Gwyneth doesn’t meet the “ideal” characteristics shared by 60% of men… Read more »
CurvesRule
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CurvesRule
Casey, In terms of the opinions, yes, I meant those that were expressed in article, and which you quite rightly stated. Based on previous threads I knew that our opinions are not as far apart as you were portraying in previous posts on this thread. One thing that I am trying hard to understand is the idea that the writer totally bashes, or tears down GP. Outside of referring to her as thin in multiple ways, and using what she put on her website to highlight the extreme nature of her regimen, where do you see that he bashes her,… Read more »
mel
Member
Um, I think the fact that he says she is “neurotic, rake-like, skeletal, and PURITANICALLY thin” is just uncalled for. He also says she is “macrobiotically fussy,” “addicted,” and “fears being the tiniest bit out of control.” Wouldn’t you agree that that’s more than a bit degrading? Maybe you don’t see that as an insult, but I think it is. Would YOU like to be called a control freak? I don’t think so. He could have said she was too thin for his preference and left it at that. I don’t see how anyone could not find this a bit… Read more »
Bethany
Member

At the end of the day one figure is not better than the other. Men and women both have preferences! My bf loves my curves and told me is going to find me less attractive when I become a size 4 at 5’9″, but his best friend thinks I’m fat right now at size 6.

Halle
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Halle

He said he would find you less attractive? Gosh, that’d really hurt my feelings if my boyfriend said that to me. But you know, I think you’re awesome for going for what you want and doing it for you. 🙂

Zeka
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Zeka

I think your bf needs to tell his friend to shut it.

alia
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alia
At this point i think i do not care about mens opinions anymore. i aonly care about how i feel about my self and my boyd. slim women look alot better in clothes than chibby ones and thats a fact we have to live with. in order to be confident in my looks, i know i have to lose a couple of lbs, not because i care about a mans opinion of cellulite on my hips. Also i do not understand why they always say men like chubby girls when all men love victoria secret models and claim the models… Read more »
Sidney
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Sidney
Agreed in the VS part, i think it’s bc many VS girls have b~~~~, and they’re strutting in their underwear so men tend to think they are sexy more easily. And just a personal note on the chubby thing, many have commented that the men in their lives have said to prefer just a bit of meat and softness, but in my experience, it’s more often than not been the fittest, thinnest girls that get the hottest guys, in school and in bars, if you rule out the ones with very visible curves who also get hit on, but that… Read more »
mel
Member

Yes, I completely agree Sidney! Maybe I live in the same area as you because it is ALWAYS the slim/skinny/athletic girls who get the hottest guys, or else a skinny-Kelly Brook type. I mean, aren’t wobbly bits an average woman’s trait? And by nature, we don’t equate average with desirable. I get guys might be into that, but only if those bits are attached to 36-23-36 frame, not your average 40-35-40 frame.

anon
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anon
but not athletic in a sense of madonna or say even cameron diaz??? I would say athletic like anna kournikova…. and slim and soft definitely I got hit on the most when I was a size 6 (US) but I was still soft and had bit of a tummy…i had gone down to a 2/4 a one point but found it hard to maintain and it didn’t make a huge difference in attracting men…if that’s all we’re going by I sometimes think men like women they can toss a few back with and toss around (not in a derogatory sense!)… Read more »
mel
Member
Haha yes Bradley Cooper 😉 I’m not talking about Madonna or Cameron Diaz, I’m talking more about the Anna Kournikova type. Athletic and muscular yes, but to a certain extent. Not to say there’s anything wrong with looking like Cameron, she could probably beat me up I’m pretty muscular myself lol. I get hit on more than my friends and I’m a size 2, so I don’t know if there’s a general rule, but it seems like in my area/age group/people I hang out with, skinniness is valued highly. And that is so true about men liking women who can… Read more »
anon
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anon

definitely depends on age group, area and lifestyle! I tend to forgot that people usually hang out with others they have stuff in common with and that can probably mean looks and fitness as well =)

Michelle
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Michelle

Oh, Alia, you think this way only because your culture tells you to…
I somehow have a feeling that these comments here are as insulting as the article itself.

Bri
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Huh, you know what they are saying really is kind of true. Not that men do not appreciate Gwyneth or find her attractive, but men in general do seem to gravitate towards softer, curvier bodies. I have many guy friends who will actually go out of their way to point out when girls are too thin. They make comments about how a girl is very pretty, but too thin. (not saying they don’t complain about thicker girls also, but they just don’t seem to appreciate very thin girls). In fact, one of my girl friend’s has the most enviable body.… Read more »
Erica
Member
I agree with you Bri. There are certainly men who prefer thin women who are very fit and toned – but the majority of men do like women with a bit of ‘meat’. It’s been studied many times across the world and the whr is the most important thing in a man’s visual attraction to women. Of course, thin women can have a good whr, but it is often more obvious in voluptuous hourglass women, rather than thin ones. Big breasts are not universally important – in some cultures they are not desired. But many cultures in the modern world… Read more »
Lisa
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Lisa

Whatever. I could say that studies have shown the majority of men like paper napkins over cloth. It’s meaningless.

Rocky
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Rocky
Hi. I just walked in the room as my wife was reading your comment and others. Well, aside from not being tall – she’s 5’6″ – your friend’s description could be my wife’s too. To go on, there are guys who like women who are thin or, as my wife is, super thin, toned, defined and fit. Yes, and with six pack. Everyone to his own taste, but I have a feeling that guys who put women like this down are afraid they can’t live up to this standard themselves. Chalk that up to insecurity. Or laziness. My wife and… Read more »
mel
Member

Yes, thank you for providing an example of guy who DOES like toned women. I thought I was living in some alien world out here because a lot of guys I know (especially if they are super fit themselves) love a thin, toned woman. I think people generally search for someone somewhat similar to themselves – for example, I wouldn’t want to date a guy who was a slob because I love working out and playing sports, which he wouldn’t be able to do if he wasn’t very muscular.

Lisa
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Lisa

People always cite hippiness as a sign of reproductive health, but I think a woman who is toned and muscular is a better indicator. Skinny chicks can have hips, too (ask mine. lol). If there’s a ton of fat covering those hips, it’s not indicative of health, period!

solaxia
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solaxia
I really don’t get this “thin and fit” or “slob” thing. I am a true hourglass, with the b❆❆bs and butt. Even when i was underweight I still had the b❆❆bs and butt and the same whr but i was sick. I LOOKED “thin and toned” but also I looked sick. Most people told me I looked sick and skinny. I wasnt even that light! I was 100lbs at 5’3 (only just underweight). I have a full and curvaceous hourglass figure right now. I am toned. I workout pretty much everyday and I eat well. I will never look like… Read more »
mel
Member
Solaxia, I definitely did not me to offend you. I am sure you are in great shape! What I’m saying is women should not take the author’s message to stop working out, since the author says that guys do not like the toned look, and I do think they appreciate that look, as well as a softer look. I did not mean to say softer, curvier women were slobs at all. But at the same time, we should not become too soft to the point where it becomes unhealthy. I was saying that women who are in good shape and… Read more »
skinnyme??
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skinnyme??

Great Comment!!!

Sharen
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@ Bri: I’m curious, where do you live? Because most of my guy friends like thin women. I am thin myself and I’ve never lacked positive attention from men. I’m European by the way. Oh, and it’s pretty rude of your friends to point out when a women needs to gain weight. Imagine they said the opposite to a fat girl. @Rocky: that’s interesting, most of my guy friends are fit themselves. And I’ll add that on a few occasions, specially when I was growing up, some guys did point out that I needed to gain weight (rude random strangers)… Read more »
Bri
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well Sharen i am a college student, in America. I mean yeah my friends appreciate slim bodies it’s not like they seek out “chubby” girls, but they just don’t idolize overly thin bodies like women tend to. I have noticed that they are much more lenient as to what is classified as a nice body than girls are. What they think of as thin/slim girl with a nice body is not necessarily same as what we think of. It’s just something I’ve noticed. (these guys are all thin, athletic guys too, I definitely wouldn’t say they are sloppy) And I… Read more »
mel
Member

I am also an American, and I have to say, the guys around me are similar to what Sharen described. Perhaps it is the specific area in America. Or perhaps it is your friends – Sharen, if your guy friends are fit and enjoy working out, they probably like women who can share that experience with them.

Sharen
Guest

thanks for the answers, girls. Brit I never thought you were putting down thin women, just talking about your experience with your friends, that’s why I asked you.

Jacey le Roux
Guest

oh thats crap!!! who cares what men want… its her body they not gonna touch it anyway… her body is insane and shes healthy and beautiful thats her body type and its sexy, yes so is christina’s but in a different way

Mia
Guest
I think the main problem with this piece is that it’s conflating mental health with physical health. In terms of what men are attracted to, there is are a variety of tastes, some want a thin and muscular woman while others prefer a softer and fuller figure. However, what men univerally do NOT want is a woman who is obsessive about her weight! Who wants to sit around and listen to someone complain about every pound or inch of their body they are unhappy with? Who wants to hear a woman talk about how many calories she burned in her… Read more »
Sharen
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Agreed, it mixing two different things.

Vic
Guest

Tje guy who wrote this hates mes has much has women. Not all women have the same body and there still can be gorgeus. Not all men are generic minds who think the same.

(Sorry for my bad english)

jenny
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jenny
This article has perfect timing. I am a curvy girl who normally fits a size 4 jeans sometimes less sometimes more. But whenever my waist creeps around 28 inches I feel panicky and self conscious. My husband always says he can’t tell but I never believed him till today. I saw the aforementioned bikini picture and had new inspiration to live a super healthy lifestyle after our baby is born. I would love to look like her. Ever! But today as I Skyped with my husband who is deployed and tried to show my husband my 5 months pregnant belly… Read more »
Alexa
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Alexa

There’s a reason why we call it the Daily FAIL.
They’ll criticize anyone for anything, especially if they can approach from the pearl-clutching conservative angle.
Yeah, men love “wobbly bits,” until a photo of a celebrity with plenty of wobble comes out, and then suddenly it’s “someone needs to get in shape!”

Alexa
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Alexa
Furthermore, I submit that you could not get even 50% of the entire male population to agree on ANYTHING. Life is a good thing? Nope, some men are suicidal. Democracy and freedom are good? Not as long as the males Qaddafi and Mubarak are alive. Food is tasty? Not to the poverty-stricken men of the third world, to whom “food” means sawdust mixed with water and baked to make “bread.” It hurts when you smack someone across the face? Not to the men who have CIPA (insensitivity to pain). The point is that you can’t assert that “men like” ANYTHING.… Read more »
lc
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I actually agree with you this time.

Charle
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Charle

Interestingly, the OkCupid blog found out that men are more interested in women on whose looks they cant agree, than on conventional beauty.

solaxia
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solaxia

Alexa, exactly. Geez people act like men arem’t human or something? Like us women all are individual and in control and have our own opinions. But men? No way! they are all just one type. One species. On mind. Like animals! Sure, some men perpetuate that stereotype but I think most people on here are doing a pretty good job of that themselves.

Alexa
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Alexa

AND FURTHERMORE!
Who in the world said that Gwyneth Paltrow (or any woman) was trying to mold her body in such a way as to attract a man? Do lesbians, asexuals and already-attached women not exist in the Daily Fail’s world?

Priscila
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Priscila

Ugh, that’s the worst part.
How they think women do anything with the only purpose to attract men.

Alexa
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Alexa

The sexism is so inherent in the argument. Clearly all women want to do is find a man who will support them while they settle into the kitchen and make babies.

mel
Member

I agree with all your comments 🙂

Brittany
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Brittany

I think this writer must have been biased from the get-go…because some men don’t want a girl like Christina Hendricks with her huge floppy rack; lots of men like the SI or “All-American, athletic beach body” just like Gwenyth and like Jessica Alba. It’s just a matter of freaking opinion…whatever gets that guy going. I know for a fact my husband would rather be with a girl like G than a super-curvy girl like say Kim K.

Jessica
Member
i completely agree. after reading the full article he really seems like he is incredibly biased and defensive, like he is trying to stick up for women and tell them personally that they don’t need to be thin because its unnatural. as many people have said on this site A MILLION times before: SOME PEOPLE ARE NATURALLY THIN! it happens. you shouldnt be punished or ridiculed for being naturally thin. if you dont need to workout to stay in shape, great for you. you shouldnt be made to feel ugly and unappealing to men because some women can’t lose weight.… Read more »
DainaLi
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DainaLi

Agreed!!We’ve gotten so lost in this ‘curvy women RULE!’ attitude that we tend to look down on naturally thin women now. I know a lot of people who are thin by nature accused of having an eating disorder. That’s just as damaging at poking fun at someone who may be a bit overweight. It’s not right. Some people are naturally bigger, some naturally smaller. I feel now that a lot of sites bash thin women & that is just a wrong & disgusting as bashing heavier women.

Ashes
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Ashes

While I understand your point and your anger I don’t think the way to go is to hurl insults in response. You didn’t like what the author of this article was saying about thin women and the insulting terms he used. Yet, when you talk about curvy women like C Hendricks, you talk about her having a ‘huge, floppy rack.’ Isn’t that a bit insulting too? Floppy? Big b❆❆bs may naturally sag more but floppy seems a bit harsh.
It’s only when people talk about all figure types with respect that we’re really getting somewhere.

Brittany
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Brittany
Hunny, I guarantee when she’s in bed with a man her b❆❆bs are flopping around…and not in a good way. That’s just my opinion! That’s why we’re al here, to post our opinions. Lots of men think b❆❆bs can be TOO big; also a matter of individual opinion. I preferably do not think Christina Hendricks has anything special…hello, of course your breasts are going to be bigger if you gain a lot of weight (like she has for Mad Men). Remember the Playboy post on here awhile ago of her? She was much smaller chest-wise as well as all over.… Read more »
mel
Member
What I’ve heard from men is that big b❆❆bs are “fun” – but they do not always prefer it. There are some guys who ALWAYS prefer it, but a lot of guys actually like it for maybe one night and then would love a more average size. The most people I’ve heard state a preference for breast size said C cup, not EE. And you’d be surprised at how many men think Bs are perfect. Not to say that men don’t like big b~~~~, if you have them, you won’t have any shortage of attention. But b❆❆bs aren’t all there… Read more »
Anne
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Anne

totally! my guy freind says that he gets pissed off when guys tell girls they need implants, and he said he cant think of anything more than a C cup to be attractive, i dont think guys want the too big to handle type of b~~~~, maybe medium, to fit their body type, they dont want them to look like theyre tipping over -_-

Mrs. L
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Mrs. L

lol…big floppy rack? Her chest is very enviably actually! How old are you just wondering…alot of grown men would love her huge rack right next to their faces. Just sayin…

Alexa
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Alexa

Very enviable, unless you ever want to do things like run, jump or see your belly button when you look down.

Mrs. L
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Mrs. L

I think if this is a negative comment…you need to grow up.

Brittany
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Brittany

True! Big b❆❆bs are enviable until ohh you have back problems or want to wear something non-formfitting and then you look like a sack…wonder why girls like Kim K dress tightly? Because they have to! Curves make you look bigger than you are anyway (i.e. Kendra Wilkinson trying to wear a babydoll top, not a good idea)!! Big b❆❆bs are only enviable if you want to show them off like a hooker or have nothing else to offer.

Mrs. L
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Mrs. L

Really? I guess every woman that goes to VS to buy push up bras is aspiring to be a hooker? Or what about the plastic surgery industry where women pay thousands to get a large chest…NO, they don’t aspire to be hookers…they want big b❆❆bs because, like it or not, it is associated with “being hot”

mel
Member

Mrs. L, are you saying guys who like skinny women are less mature than those who like their curvier counterparts? I beg to differ.

Mrs. L
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Mrs. L

MEL,

Ummm, nooo. I am saying as one matures, usually there views on things mature as well, opening the mind to a broader spectrum of beauty.

Mrs. L
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Mrs. L
Ones age does have something to do with perception…because as you get older and mature, you, and usually your mind mature as well. For example an adolescent boy will chase after the skinny cheerleader in HS, but usually at age 14, skinny girls is all there is. Now that boy is a 30 year old man who finds big b❆❆bs and shakira shaking hips HOT; and then his wife has a baby and now her stomach is soft and sensual and her b❆❆bs have settled at a larger size. People grow up, and mature. Opinions are like assholes, everybody has… Read more »
lc
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Mel-yeah, that’s what it sounded like to me.

CurvesRule
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CurvesRule

Well said Mrs L.

Mrs. L
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Mrs. L
Brittany, Not all women that get implants seek to look like a hooker; Maybe in the p— industry. Alot of women do it to heighten their self esteem, and as for clothing that is low cut or form fitting…who cares! if you have it flaunt it ( and no I do not mean your b❆❆bs hanging out for the world to see, there are different extremes of “low cut” ) As for push up bras and the women who wear them, your comment sounds so immature. Plenty of women who wear them are not, how you said it? Hoochies? Do… Read more »
Jillian
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Jillian

Someone sounds bitter….

Brittany
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Brittany

Lol, well someone that wants plastic surgery to have huge fake b❆❆bs and then wear low, tight tops is A HOOKER!! And girls that wear those huge, fake padded VS bras do so to look like little hoochies and act like them too! And yes, even women with big natural b❆❆bs that push them up for the world to see…they are cheap looking hookers too lol. It’s a matter of class vs. trash not whatever the heck you’re talking about.

Anne
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Anne

gross..