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Kate Upton: “I’m not a toy, I’m a human”

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On her life after Sports Illustrated:

“After my first Sports Illustrated cover, I felt terrible about myself for a solid month. Every single guy I met was either married or about to be married, and I felt like I was their bachelor present or something. I’m not a toy, I’m a human. I’m not here to be used. I am a grown woman, and you need to figure your s–t out.”

… says Kate in Elle Magazine.

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Nina
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Nina

I love her long lean legs.

winston
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You love Photoshop/.

Emilia
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Emilia

blaaaaah ,poor kate ur smokin hot but still have so important problems :(((((( yeah right haha 😀

kim
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Totally agree with you. If this is all she has to worry about then she’s living a pretty good life.Secondly, models like Adriana Lima model for Victoria secret and are in skimpy outfits, but know how to choose what situations they want to be in. Lastly, I don’t find her that classy. Don’t get me wrong she is pretty, but she lacks a certain appeal. For instance, I adore Adriana Lima she’s classy has sex appeal, and appeal to both men and women.

jenp
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jenp

These “men” that are treating her like an object are only doing so because they feel they are “above” her. This makes me think she is going out of her way to try and date very high profile men who have a lot of options and are usually huge douche bags.

Why is she seeking these men? Money, fame? How does she view them? Is it any worse than how they view her?

Just sayin’.

cameron baum
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cameron baum

It’s not just rich dudes that are misogynistic a-holes. Misogyny comes in all forms, unfortunately. I also think it’s a little low for people to criticize her for speaking out about how she is treated. It doesn’t matter what your profession is; you shouldn’t be treated like a piece of meat. Yes she is beautiful and makes money off the way she looks, but there’s an actual person in there. Saying that being/feeling objectified isn’t an important problem is a gross misogynistic statement in itself. We women get enough sexist BS from men, so why are we acting this way… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

Because many women would rather compete with one another than actually challenge misogyny.

Naressa Khan
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Naressa Khan

Which is so dumb and stupid. I’d rather challenge misogyny any day

Tiina
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Tiina

Amen, o cameron baum.

PS
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PS

I feel the same way, can’t help it but her comment reminded me of the usual “I’m uncomfortable being treated as a sex symbol” whining. Girl you’re posing half naked, flaunting your breasts on a magazine’s cover. Did you expect men to approach you to talk about Heisenberg’s cat? Geez…

Amatevi
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Amatevi

Wow. No matter what someone does with their body, I think they need to be respected. Being a sex symbol does not allow men to treat women like they are toys. Just because of the way she poses for magazines does not mean that she doesn’t deserve to be approached by a decent man with decent intentions. I honestly think men continue to be the way they are because women make too many excuses for them. I personally never liked this model and I still don’t find her appealing but I can’t believe the sort of comments she is receiving.… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

It’s called s1ut-shaming.

And sadly, both men and women engage in it.

FashionablyChic
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FashionablyChic

I hate to say this but it’s actually Schrödinger’s cat… sorry it was just bothering me so much.

Mera
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Mera

And the men react to the b❆❆bs like Pavlov’s Dog..right:P

Sarah
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Sarah

lol Clever remark Mera 🙂

Bruce Jonathan Fick
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Bruce Jonathan Fick

Bravo. Women weren’t created to be conquests. In the original movie Mortal Combat was featured a pair of creatures. One made of water. One made of fire though the elements were radicly different, the analogy was altogether obvious. Women ARE a breed apart from men. But you can understand anyone’s point of view if you merely put yourselves in their shoes for a moment and immagine what it must be like to be them., on the Summer Side of Life, kind of like that Gordon Lightfoot tune. People who forget dominance and seek balance can tell you.. Water always seeks… Read more »

Gigi
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Gigi

had to do a double take to make sure that actually said “mortal kombat” and “gordon lightfoot” when i was scrolling down…lol interesting metaphors but very very true. preach

Jello
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Jello

Then a lot of people are walking around this planet with a piece of my soul.

Lillaliket
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Lillaliket

Haha!

Iana
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Iana

I can relate to her on some level. I’m a programming major and the only woman in a class of 34 and I’ve come across the whole range of responses regarding my appearance: from people blatantly refusing to make eyecontact, to indifference and acting like a normal person, to openly starting at my b❆❆bs and telling me I’m “in the wrong field with a body like that” (sadly, that’s an actual quote). At one point my teacher even told me (in a polite way but still…) that maybe I should dye my blonde hair a different color if I want… Read more »

Jacquelyn
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Jacquelyn

I too can relate. I am currently enlisted in the army and I’ve spent a mere 3 months at my unit and I don’t care what anyone says, the women generally are NOT respected in the same way men are and we are not treated as equals. We’re still somehow considered sex objects to an extent. This disappoints me because I really believed America had evolved

Miss x
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Miss x

Why not just enjoy the attention, soon you will be old and noone will look at you. If you didn’t get any attention you would probably complain about that.

Mera
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Mera

Apparently menopause isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be. I have heard women say that it’s a relief to not have to worry about being sexualy attractive to men.

La la la la
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La la la la

harassment is a huge problem in the military, telling women to enjoy it is not the answer

Gigi
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Gigi

“and as long as I don’t dress like a ho”

bravo to everything to you said except that. theres no such THING as a ho or a s—. those terms are just another way to perpetuate female subversion. women deserve respect no matter how they dress or how many guys they have sex with. you could wear a tube top and mini skirt and they would still need to “get their s— together”.

by the way this is not an attack on you specifically, just a problem i have with those terms in general.

Iana
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Iana

I agree with you and just misspoke on that. I guess what I meant to say was something like “as long as I’m dressed appropriately”. A baggy long-sleeved shirt with a nasty slogan written on it would be just as inappropriate for a professional setting as a revealing outfit. (Neither of which wear at school or work, BTW :P)

Zoe
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Zoe

Agreed, but I must say, it does irk me when people say things like “However many sexual partners a woman has is her business, not anyone else’.” Yes, exactly- that’s *HER* business, not mine or anyone else’s, so the way I see it, feel free to bang as many people as you like, but just don’t come and report the details to me every time you have a new ‘conquest,’ as though I’m supposed to congratulate/commend you, and “Ooh!” and “Aah” (no pun intended) at intervals. It’s pretty easy for any half-decent-looking person to get laid, so please don’t act… Read more »

Heather88
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Heather88

I can also relate to this. I’ve been told by people that they didn’t expect me to be smart because I’m so pretty, or that I shouldn’t bother with getting a graduate degree because I could get by on my looks. Needless to say, these comments made me feel terrible and there was a point in my life where my confidence was really shaky. At a couple of points I did consider giving up on university to work in modeling and the beauty industry (So glad I pushed through though!). I get that Kate is a model so obviously she… Read more »

Nana
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Nana

No cheekbones, no neck, no waist. Compare everything about her to someone like Shalom Harlow. Such a strange age when live in where average people can be catapulted to success just by jiggling their b❆❆bs around on the internet.

Mila
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Mila

What? I actually googled that model you suggested: she has a model face, a bit different, runway model.
But she’s not attractive in sexual sense (no full lips, angular face, masculized features), not even cute. Kate has sexual energy, is cute. And people find average faces most attractive.
I usually don’t find blonds attractive, but Kate is stunning. And it’s not always about the features on your body/face… but the energy, karma you have, attraction, the way you carry yourself.

Nana
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Nana

Lol whatever you say. Although, Shalom was a much bigger than Kate (figuratively, of course.) There are many people that find her incredibly stunning.

Kate Upton is basic as hell and most people I know are about 50/50 on her. So a woman has to be “sexual” to be beautiful? Lol people are funny.

tequilla
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tequilla

lol all of you are so funny.. woman doasnt need to be sex.attractive to be pretty right? who would choose that option..? i wouldnt. then andrej pejic is a very pretty girl!

Nana
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Nana

Also, the term “average” when talking about facial attractiveness doesn’t mean average looking like Kate. It means that when combining the faces of many people through computer program, the average face of lots of people combined is found to be more attractive than a single picture of a person alone. -_-

anon
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anon

nana sounds like a bitter, jealous old hag.

MerryHappy
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MerryHappy

That’s a horrible thing to say. Nana is actually correct about the combined faces. There are numerous psychological studies about attractiveness, and combined to achieve an average complain of all the faces joined score higher than un combined faces.

MerryHappy
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MerryHappy

I sometimes wonder if when she’s older she’ll regret some of her decisions, like the very daddy video, and everything involving Terry Richardson.

Mera
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Mera

Shalom Harlow is boring. I have never understood her appeal.

Mila
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Mila

I know what average means. And you could say Kate has an average looking face (not in a bad way), if she’s dressed casual and no make up she would be like 56768768 other girls in town. http://www.bergproperties.com/media/uploads/bergproperties/old_wp/_blog_wp-content_uploads_2008_12_114shalom_harlow04_jpg.jpg … Sorry, but I rather have Kate than this. She is beautiful in some shots but that’s it. And woman doesn’t have to be sexual to be beautiful or attractive, but she needs to have an energy, karma… that’s what makes Kate different than million other blonde girls with big boobs. I feel like majority of women who hate Kate also hate… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

I wouldn’t even say beautiful. When I first saw her in Vogue back in the 1990s I felt she was rather plain.

Mera
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Mera
serena
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serena

Agree Mera, I don’t find Shalom beautiful, and normally I love the combination of dark hair and blue eyes, and even a strong jawline on women. In some pics Shalom looks striking (interesting face, makes you look twice) and in others quite plain. I have yet to see 1 picture where she looks beautiful – but I’m not familiar with her, just Googled her.

Mera
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Mera

She can look absolutely gorgeous in certain photos: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQjwLesDn1x0u3FqNliFwLWCTiX9B3o0KcJERnGt8qsxkPVO00Aew

But that is because she has the perfect face for ‘high art’ photography. But I wouldn’t want to look like her – I’d rather resemble Doutzen, or Cindy C.

mary
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mary

Agreed Nana, Kate is so average and has nothing head turning about her besides the big jugs, which of course all the teenage boys drool over.

lc
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lc

I also agree with Nana.

Winnie
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Winnie

people jiggling their b❆❆bs to fame more than precedes the internet age…this is not new news.

Alias
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Alias

I didn’t notice the neck, but the waist is gone due to her huge weight gain, I don’t know why her agency or SI doesn’t say anything.

About cheek bones though, I find Miranda Kerr quite beautiful, and she also doesn’t really have cheek bones. I don’t think it’s a defining feature of beauty.

Isabel
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Isabel

A waist is not only a matter of fat distribution, but also of pelvic and ribcage shape. She has a wide ribcage, about as wide as her hips/pelvis and that’s why you can’t see her waist. In pics where she was skinnier, she didn’t have a waist either.

Alias
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Alias

I know she will never have a Candice waist, but take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utxP21dZamU

Her waist was never as wide and as boxy as it is now.

anon
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anon

@nana you are so bitter and insecure that you have to point out another woman’s flaws. I’d love to see what you look like standing next to her.

Winnie
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Winnie

Nana/Amanda/Jessica E./whatever other aliases she uses to agree with and validate her own opinions on this site is probably good-looking but highly insecure. i find those are the girls who tend to be the harshest and cattiest critics toward other women.

(other) anon
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(other) anon

Winnie, from my (not the anon of above) experience it’s usually the not particularly good looking women who are the cattiest. The really attractive women I’ve come across(my self included 🙂 ) tend to be the most down to earth, for the most part secure, women who are usually open to other types of beauty. In other words they know they are good looking, therefore they are not “threatened” or offended by other perceived ideas of beauty and there really is no reason to be so cruel & harsh in their critiques of other women. That being said, I don’t… Read more »

Winnie
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Winnie

Hmm, I dunno anon. Most of the really catty women I have come across who are extremely catty and nitpicky towards other were really good-looking, but like I said insecure had problems with their own looks so they get their jollies by putting others down. I agree with you that good-looking women who believe they are attractive don’t feel threatened by other good-looking women, but good-looking women who have problems with their self-esteem? That’s a whole other story. I know people like that. Insecure about their looks but still arrogant enough to know that they are better looking than a… Read more »

snoops
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snoops

I think so too Winnie. Being good looking can be a double edged sword, you get these women who are so insecure because they have learnt to value themselves only by looks, and so are threatened by other beauties that don’t share their specific “look”. Whether plain, average, or beautiful it is important to value yourself on other things and not appearance, looks do not last forever and beauty is only ever subjective anyway. You can not argue someone into finding a person to be attractive using facts and logic.

Mera
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Mera

I have been told I am attractive, however, I still have incredibly low self-esteem, and am racked with insecurity.

But, as a matter of fact, I try to appreciate all forms of beauty, even those that ‘are not’ my type.

There is beauty in every ‘look’, and just because something isn’t what you naturally gravitate towards, doesn’t make it objectively ugly.

(other) anon
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(other) anon

Winnie- Well, I suppose it could work both ways. I guess I’m just speaking from my own experience, judging by the many friends/acqaintances through out my life in different areas (attractive & not so) even realtives (attractive& not so) It just seemed/and still seems to me that the very attractive ones just aren’t as nitpicky/catty/jealous as others, whereas the not so attractive ones relished in that type of behaviour more. But, as you said, being beautiful doesn’t necessarily mean being self-confident, just as being unattractive doesn’t necessarily mean having a lack of self -confidence. Snoops, as you said- being good… Read more »

lc
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lc

Ummm anon weren’t you the one saying Britney Spears was a “stumpy legged rugby player, with droopy eyes and she is unattractive”…???? Uh yeah, pot calling the kettle black, much? I guess you are a “bitter, jealous old hag” too, because you pointed out a ton of supposed flaws in Britney. You did sound quite bitter actually, and were unnecessarily rude about it too.

(other) anon
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(other) anon

lc- as I’ve stated before in other posts, there are more than one “anon” on here. If you had actually read my whole comment, you would have read where I pointed out that I am a different “anon” from above. I have never called anyone a name on here before(celebrities or other posters)
I think probably one could tell by the tone of the different “anons” on here, that there are more than one. I am the one that doesn’t sound hostile by attacking specific posters on here by name-calling or calling celebrities nasty names.

Winnie
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Winnie

LMFAO! k, this website is just getting bonkers.

lc
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lc

Yes, I wasn’t talking to you, “other-anon”. I was talking to just “anon”…? At least, I thought I was.

also anon
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also anon

anon is short for anonymous. aka anyone who doesn’t want to leave their name – so a lot of people

Liv
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Liv

I like what she says… I feel people will say things like.. “But you’re a swim suit, underwear model… just accept it…” while she does men’s magazine and it is titivating… she IS a person… and it’s no different than a woman walking down the street in high heels and a mini skirt.. she does it to be pretty, attractive… to turn heads… but she isn’t an object… and just because we want to be pretty, or sexy, or appeal to someone sexually doesn’t mean we deserve to be degraded… Just because I wear tight jeans doesn’t mean you can… Read more »

Liv
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Liv

titillating* Damn phone

Paisley
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Paisley

I totally agree. She is so spot on with this quote. Modeling is her profession and has nothing to do with her value as a human being. It shouldn’t be dehumanizing and it’s distressing to me that as women (and the men who view and comment on this site) our impulse is to blame her for objectification and not the men and women who do it.

Mera
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Mera

Exactly. But this is because people get an emotional high out of ‘tut’ ‘tutting’ others. They love to feel superior, especially to the ‘s1uts’.

KatAnne87
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KatAnne87

Go girl; I love your comments!

Zoe
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Zoe

Great comment, Liv- agree completely! 🙂

Winnie
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Winnie

Yes Liv! Preach it! *bows down*

Calia
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Calia

Great comment, Liv. Agree with you all the way. And I like Kate Upton – why not? She’s cute and seems nice enough.

Heather88
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Heather88

Love this comment and agree 100%!

Katya
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Katya

Omg, this girl is seriously so full of herself. I just feel so sorry for her because she feels like a toy for flaunting her breasts. She needs to get over herself because’s she’s not that hot.

Liv
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Liv

The amount of money she makes because of her pretty face and body say other wise.

Amanda
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Amanda

*boobs*

Liv
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Liv

I’ve seen women with b❆❆bs much larger than hers… or the same size b❆❆bs and they aren’t making money like she is… so to say it’s just cause she has huge b❆❆bs is lame… she is pretty.

Amanda
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Amanda

I guess she could be pretty to some. I don’t see it. She is famous because she has a very prevalent agent that has cleverly marketed her through social media that generated enough interest to start getting covers. She appeals to women because she isn’t “perfect” and it makes them feel better about themselves. She appeals to men because of her blonde hair and massive rack. My definition of beautiful is much more elegant and refined. Kate Uptons are a dime a dozen.

Brenda
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Brenda

agree!! I dont understand why she gets so much hate. I think she’s really pretty

Liv
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Liv

People say that often… that she is a dime a dozen… but I don’t see women who look like Kate often…

Amanda
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Amanda

It’s not that I hate her. I just find her unappealing like a lot of others do.

There are SO many beautiful women are the world, and we’re giving attention to this girl? Her face isn’t striking, her body isn’t well proportioned. She’s just kinda…. alright.
On top of that, she seems dimwitted and somewhat vapid. Every time I see a quote of hers it’s usually grammatically incorrect, somewhat shallow, or understated bragging on herself.

People don’t like her because she’s subpar.

Jacquelyn
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Jacquelyn

You’re one of my favorite commenters. Not like the other spiteful, bitter women on this site who either need to get laid or take the stick out of their asses lol jeez. And I’m not even a fan of Kate Upton. Go figure. As women we need to be supporting each others’ success, not knocking one another down (or unsuccessfully try to).

serena
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serena

“She appeals to women because isn’t “perfect” and it makes them feel better about themselves” Haha you couldn’t be more off – women HATE Kate Upton, 90% of the comments on her posts are hateful. Girls constantly list her flaws and call her trashy. The reality is Kate is not average, compared to the majority of women she’s attractive – a 5’10 blonde with longgg legs and big b❆❆bs – no wonder the claws come out! Funny thing is I’m not even a KU fan – she has a common sorority girl face – but it’s interesting how she inspires… Read more »

Jacquelyn
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Jacquelyn

Liv, you have earned my respect today Quite frankly, you’re a breath of fresh air on this site

Amanda
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Amanda

Yeahh….I have long legs and big b❆❆bs already. They aren’t that uncommon. I have a serious problem with the women today looking up to woman like this who don’t desire to help the world in any way, that basically ARE just toys, don’t desire getting an education, don’t desire to prop women up as a whole in any way. Just flopping around and doing the cat daddy while a convicted sexual predator films her. Yay America! Seriously? Wow. While I agree with Liv on her points on women being able to do whatever we want without being called names or… Read more »

serena
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serena

Now you’re changing your argument – you went from saying Kate’s not attractive enough to model to claiming she doesn’t do enough to help the world. True she’s not Mother Theresa, but neither are the other girls on this site who are praised! VS Angels also model lingerie and do nudes but it’s ok since they’re A/B cups, but if Kate does nudes she’s trashy because her b❆❆bs are big. See the double standard? The hypocrisy is irritating. I’m in Graduate school but I understand not everyone needs advanced education, the economy needs blue collar workers and entertainers too –… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

Great comment Serena.

This is the thing – feminism, and women’s rights, are about being able to BE SEXY without being thought of as a dirty stinkin s1ut.

And there is NOTHING WRONG with being sexy, and nothing wrong with being found attractive even if you are not 100pct mathematically perfect.

The fact that she isn’t perfect is a GOOD THING, because it sends the message that perfection isn’t needed to be beautiful. That women are more than mere mannequins who need to fit some impossibly perfect ideal in order not to be thrown away like trash!

Mera
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Mera

Amanda wrote “do you realize she is flat out objectifying herself? What kind of twisted ideology is going on here? I honestly don’t understand this site at all.

Not only is she plain, but she’s VAPID.”

What are you doing here? Objectifying women? You should be out saving the world, not wasting your time in such ‘vapid’ pursuits.

Amanda
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Amanda

No dear. You are putting words in my mouth. She is attractive, but I don’t think she’s model quality. She’s trashier than the typical VS model, not because of her chest size, but the way she presents herself as a whole. Her entire gimmick is the typical bimbo. I don’t understand why you are trying to defend this kind of image So then it got me thinking, “Well she’s not very striking, she must have a DAZZLING personality.” But no, turns out she doesn’t at all. She doesn’t really have anything to offer other than videos of her bouncing around.… Read more »

Amanda
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Amanda

And as for you “Mera” I can’t help but laugh at your comments. I checked back a couple pages and you are on this site every day commenting and (usually arguing) with other members. Maybe I’m being critical of Kate because I dislike her look and what she stands for, but I usually am not commenting on here.

So you are accusing me of objectifying women when you do the same thing more often than even I? Hmmmm

Mera
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Mera

@amanda

There is nothing wrong with critiquing people’s looks. It’s when you start judging them as 1) worthless 2) of low character etc because you don’t happen to like how they look.

Shalom Harlow isn’t my fave, for example. However, that is my opinion and I am not going to act holier than thou and proclaim that she must be of low character and morals, and worthless as an individual, simply because she’s not my type.

Amanda
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Amanda

Never said I thought she worthless as a human, but her whole act does nothing for women as someone in the spotlight. You don’t understand what I’m saying. She is only slightly above average to me and others, so as a celebrity, one would assume she has a spectacular personaltiy or is a wonderful person. Then, come to find even that is unremarkable. I don’t want to go on and on about this, because it’s boring to me, frankly. You said something about girls on here getting their jolly’s off putting other women down (which you do frequently), but you… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

“Never said I thought she worthless as a human” No, you just strongly implied it. “You JUST SAID I was objectifying women, and now there’s nothing wrong with critisism?” Clearly, the point has gone right over your head. It is possible to criticize someone’s looks without objectifying them. The objectification comes in when looks is ALL YOU SEE AND ALL YOU JUDGE THEM ON. For example, a person is allowed to not find blondes attractive. But when you take it a step further and state that all blondes are inherently worthless tramps simply because YOU don’t like the hair colour,… Read more »

Brittany
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Brittany

Geez….just let her be a model and stop trying to hold her to a role model standard. You guys take this stuff so seriously!

Liv
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Liv

Owned by Verses… haha

Liv
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Liv

@ Amanda… I think it’s fine to not find her attractive… Blondes are not my favorite… She’s pretty “typical All American…” But she is very photogenic… she is pretty, and perhaps not preference to people doesn’t mean she isn’t attractive… especially in a scientific sense. I prefer brunettes… In my opinion I find someone like Olivia Wilde more attractive than Kate but that doesn’t mean that Kate is ugly or not good at her job. She poses the way high fashion models do… She’s bringing back b❆❆bs to high fashion and she isn’t considered PLUS size… She isn’t overly toned… Read more »

Winnie
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Winnie

Didn’t you make a comment saying you’d consider getting breast implants once? And yet you’re always bashing Kate for her natural endowment? Lol wow, I don’t even have to say the word.

lc
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lc

I agree with Katya. Yes, it’s the boobs. And having long legs and big b❆❆bs really is not that uncommon. Seriously. I actually see it more often than people here think.

And people who think people dislike Kate’s look because they are intimidated, and thus feel the need to be “catty”, are absolutely ridiculous; I’m sorry. That’s not true at all for me. And I *do* think her looks are a dime a dozen. Her success is her family has connections, and she was most likely simply in the right place at the right time, is all.

Amanda
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Amanda

Thank you!! There are probably girls in this freaking comment section that are better looking than her.

Katya
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Katya

Yes, thank you… I’ll admit that she can look good in magazine photo shoots, but they put a lot of makeup on her and do so much airbrushing. If you’ve ever seen a candid photo of Kate, she doesn’t look any better than an average girl walking down the street.

Mera
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Mera

if it was just the b❆❆bs you’d see strippers on the cover of Vogue and SI

lc
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lc

Not really. Kate has connections and such, anyway.

Mera
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Mera

If connections were all it took, Laurence Fishburne’s daughter with her sex tape would be a superstar right now.

Nepotism and b❆❆bs only take you so far. At some point, your personality has to sell itself.

Winnie
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Winnie

i wouldn’t chalk her success up to just that. coming from a well-off family and having a congressman for an uncle are hardly the kind of connections that will land you a Vogue cover…or three.

serena
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serena

Kate lands Vogue covers because they sell well with her face on it – simple as that. Fashion is a business like any other. Directors, producers, designers hire big-name models like Kate because people will buy their finished product. It’s basic supply and demand, folks. And I say this as someone who will probably never buy an issue of Vogue in my life.

lc
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lc

No, but they get her the notoriety and publicity to land the covers. She has the connections, which helped her get famous in the *first* place. She gets those covers simply because she is novelty now, flavor of the month. What novelty to see a bikini model on Vogue, that’s just crazy! I guess she is popular now, or something! Huh! So people think like that and the mag sells. Like serena said, publicity is the business. Sasha Pivarovna and Kate Moss types get those gigs because they’re in that sect of the industry; regular Vogue readers into that specific… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

If it was JUST connections, every daughter of someone famous would be on the cover of Vogue by now.

lc
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lc

Maybe they don’t want to be, or haven’t been in the right place at the right time.

Mera
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Mera

“Maybe they don’t want to be, or haven’t been in the right place at the right time.”

If it was ONLY nepotism and ONLY boobs, then a lot more wannabe daughters of famous people would be getting way more magazine covers – just like Kate.

They are not getting the same attention that Kate is because they simply don’t sell magazines.

It’s that simple.

Nepotism and connections can only take you so far.

serena
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serena

I think both Lc and Mera have good points. Wealth and connections played a huge role in Kate’s success – she is heiress to the Whirlpool empire, money comes with connections. But of course that’s not enough: Bruce Willis and Demi Moor’s daughter could never land a Vogue cover, she is rather plain. Kate is not stunning but she is 5’10, has the bubbly busty blonde role down pat, combined with her connections it’s no wonder she’s a successful model. It’s true a lot of average girls look like Kate but she’s not ugly, at least average if not a… Read more »

lc
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lc

No. Maybe they DON’T want to be. Maybe they want to go to school and, you know, get an education/degree. And having money would certainly make that easier for them, anyway. Sure, it can only take you so far, but it damn well gets you started, a start many would not even HAVE if not in that position. Kind of like how Ashlee Simpson became a pop star because of Jessica. She obviously wanted to, and having Jessica’s name helped her get the start many other (more) talented girls did not have. If not, we wouldn’t know who she was… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

“Sure, it can only take you so far, but it damn well gets you started, a start many would not even HAVE if not in that position” You are absolutely correct in that it can open doors. But the daughter/son will ONLY have a successful career if they have actual talent. Angilena Jolie, Jennifer Aniston, Keifer Sutherland, Lena Dunham all had rich and/or successful parents to open the doors for them. But if they were wooden on screen, and didn’t project any personality to the camera, there careers would have gone NOWHERE. Tamara Ecclestone and Petra Ecclestone are great examples… Read more »

Iana
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Iana

@Mera
To each their own, but I never found the Ecclestone sisters very specially pretty. I mean, they both have nice hair and nice clothes (of course) but facially Tamara looks tacky and has a huge forehead and Petra’s nose is just so strange. Honestly, they both look really cheap, like page 3 girls (ironic enough?). I dont know anything about their personalities, but even if they were saints I don’t think fashion would embrace them because they’re so generic.

Mera
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Mera

@Lana

I agree with you, but for the purpose of this discussion, they might be classed the same as Kate – generically pretty with big t–s (though I beileve their’s are fake)

So, with a rich dad, and plenty of connections – got one of them into Playboy – why haven’t they managed a Vogue cover? Clearly, these girls just want attention, and want to be part of the fashion world.

One of them even tried to a fashion designer and it tanked because she has zero talent.

Like I said, rich parents open doors, but if you don’t have talent you will fail.

Iana
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Iana

@Mera So what are your thoughts on why Kate’s so popular right now? I like her okay as a model, I think sometimes she can do fashion well but commercial is definitely her niche which is fine too. Being successful at HF is a little overrated IMO. So I like Kate overall, but I’m pretty baffled why she’s SO popular across a lot of different genres. Let’s compare her to someone like Carmen Electra who a few years ago was a super popular “sexy girl” with lots of magazine covers, sexy advertisements, etc. but high fashion just never gave a… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

@Lana They are trying to recapture the essence of the 90’s models – sexy, HF, sold lots of mags. There are definitely girls out there that are prettier and have better bodies and some crossover appeal – Doutzen, Candice – but, I just don’t think they have the same broad appeal as Kate. And btw, Lc’s ‘connections are all you need’ theory can be flipped around. Let’s look at Stella Tennant, India Hicks, Jade Jagger, Edie Campbell and Tali Lennox. I mean, the above are ONLY successful and famous models now because they are 1) anorexic 2) socialites 3) daughters… Read more »

Winnie
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Winnie

@lana i don’t mean to jump in lol, but Kate has been modelling for a relatively long time. when she started she was still a teenager so her b❆❆bs weren’t overwhelmingly big then. i think once her body began to change and develop more her management team probably discussed ways to utilize her new “assets” lol in a way that would be profitable. her first SI issue was actually when she was 18 and she got “rookie of the year” for that issue so it made sense for her continue on the “swimsuit model” path. it was a pretty racy… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

@winnie

very well said

the controversy angle has been proven right here on this site – why do KU posts tend to have the largest amount of replies?

a large part of fame,nowadays, is simply brand recognition

take Karlie Kloss for example – she is the perfect model, she is famous, and she has the right connections – Anna Wintour LOVES her. Yet KK hasn’t been on the cover of US vogue yet, why? Because she is just not perceived as *interesting* enough to sell magazines.

That’s it.

Iana
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Iana

I ADORE Karlie Kloss, I wish she was shown here more! Like I said high fashion’s not really my thing, but in shots like this she just KILLS it: http://bootlovers.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83452747269e2017c33752f59970b-500wi Seriously, she’s such a crazy talented model. I genuinely felt sorry for her when she did Victorias Secret (do they still use her, BTW?) because it was just a waste of her talent and they tried (unsuccessfully) to make her part of their femme-bot army. And VS is becoming more and more of a joke now: http://autymnjoan.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/vs11karlie2.jpg Oh Karlie, you poor poor dear. The back shot is even worse http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/1q/esq-17-a-karlie-kloss-ass-111111-lg-16487497.jpg… Read more »

lc
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lc

Yeah, my point is that it opened the doors for her already. She probably wouldn’t have been “scouted” if not for that. And I *do* think it’s her personality/charisma or something that is keeping her relevant, I’m sure it’s not her modeling. I think of her as more of a celebrity/personality than a real model.

Mera
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Mera

Well then lc it would appear that we agree and were arguing over a minor fact!

lc
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lc

Yes, for the most part! Lol.

Courtney
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Courtney

what does she expect? posing half naked on a magazine cover isnt going to get you respect girly

happygolucky
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happygolucky

Exactly. Unless someone put a gun to her head to force her to dance around in a bikini, SHE made the choice to allow herself to be objectified. I’m not saying it’s fair, but that’s the way the world is, at least at this point in history. You’d have to be an idiot to not expect people to treat you like a piece of meat if you act like one.

Mera
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Mera

That’s because of a misogynist society, not kate

And we should be working to change that, not tut tuting other women for the crime of being sexy, or sexual.

Men who pose sexy aren’t accused of being vapid twits. Nope, only women. The double standard still exists. And instead of sh*tting all over the women, we should support them instead. This is what equal rights are all about.

Amanda
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Amanda

She should savor every minute of this because she is not going to age well. At all.

Ashleym
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Ashleym

What does this have to do with the post? Seriously, it’s like you go out of your way to post snide comments and its not necessary.

I understand your “definition of beauty” is “more refined” or whatever but your comments are definitely not!!

Brittany
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Brittany

That’s what happens when you pose for things like sports illustrates, figure your s— out dear

SA girl
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SA girl

Unfortunately, if you are a swimsuit Fhm model, men tend to brand you that way…It’s expected, not that it’s correct. It’s cavemen like and far from being civilized. To get a different response from men, as in respect, I guess modelling in your underwear or swimsuit isn’t the best choice. That is the sort of message you are putting across as a model, especially lingerie related. Strange, I expected Kate to be comfortable with herself, and not worried about what others think of her, especially men.

Liv
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Liv

I see your point… and while I know there are men who do that… and it might be the majority of men who do that… I do not think all men who see a VS model, swim suit model, or sexy woman think she doesn’t deserve respect. It is a career path they have chosen, they are not prostitutes, or escorts, and in a lot of the photo shoots it’s considered a form of art… I am not talking p— here… that is different, she doesn’t do p—… or at least hasn’t yet… so her point is valid… I just… Read more »

Liv
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Liv

Note: When I said “straight ones at least” I was talking about lumping all straight men into one major category… or a vast majority of straight men… Not to say all homosexual men should be lumped together… I was trying to exclude them from my post for obvious reasons.

Mila
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Mila

All women deserve respect, even p— actresses, prostitutes, etc.
Why is it bad if woman offers sex, but it’s not wrong when man is looking/paying for sex?

Winnie
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Winnie

good question Mila. women tear Kate apart for doing these kinds of shoots and justify the man’s actions with statements like “they’re just men! what do you expect?” ridiculous.

lc
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lc

They are just men, but that doesn’t mean I think it justifies it. That’s just it. Men are just pigs. Most at least, imo.

Winnie
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Winnie

but saying they’re “just” men? what does that mean though? that’s like men try to demean women and keep them out of certain professions because they’re “just” women and that somehow makes them lesser beings. both of those attitudes are wrong.

rubiii
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rubiii

because we say they are ‘just’ men, we kind of justify their actions..like they are normal and like it is acceptable to behave that particularly way. today it is ‘normal’ if a guy sees a girl wearing bikini and say: ‘that b*tch is hot, I would smack her, she deserves it, look at her. she clearely wants it’
this discussion reminded me of raping. I’ve heard many times when girls are raped this comment :’she wanted it, her heels were too high and she was dressed as a street walker’
that is just soo horrible

lc
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lc

Oh no no, I’m not justifying it. I just chimed in saying I think men are pigs, just something I have noticed for myself. I am not trying to get them out of anything, trust me.

rubiii
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rubiii

lc I get you! you said most of man, so I get it 🙂

livalittle
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livalittle

I didn’t mean that p— stars or women in the sex industry deserve no respect. I meant that it’s not the same objectification… as in p— is meant solely for men,and the key iobjectification. I don’t believe those women should be harmed because of their profession. but I don’t enjoy p—. it makes me sad. but I don’t mind polling at Kate in a bikini because I find her beautiful and she inspired me to work out, she looks like she enjoys herwork. I don’t see that you often in p—, usually only xart does that, p— for women.I also… Read more »

Liv
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Liv

Sorry for my chalked up response Winnie… I was talking to you… I guess late night socializing on my phone should be left for the day! haha

Lillaliket
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Lillaliket

Ugggh does anyone really think it’s okay for a man to buy sex? Except other men? In Sweden it’s only illegal to buy sex, not to sell, which I think is how it should be everywhere!

Soph
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Soph

P— makes me sad too. The fact that the majority of men feel like it is their right to get satisfaction of some poor girls degradation is beyond me. I check my boyfriends internet history and if he watches p—, I’m out the door. I am a young and pretty girl who has sex with him every day, if he was needing to watch p— well he can sod off I’d rather be alone than with a guy who selfishly demeans women.

Liv
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Liv

I don’t think most men want to buy sex, and I don’t think most men think it’s ok to buy sex… I think using sex as a weapon in any form is wrong… I also hate how we try to scare women away from sex, but at the same time get angry when they are closed off and “prudish” about their sexuality… Do I think that women should just go out and engage in risky behavior without protection for their lady parts… No, but if they do I hope they can live with it without deep wounds… I also find… Read more »

Mila
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Mila

Soph – hate to inform you, but your bf probably watches p— in Google Incgnito mode, mode that doesn’t track internet history.
I have nothing against p—, I watch it with my bf sometimes.

Soph
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Soph

Mila, yeah some of my guy friends have told me he is definately lying. And I often wonder. But when someone you love promises you something because it means so much to me I guess I just have to try and trust. But I’ll never know I suppose.

Mera
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Mera

I don’t care if my bf looks at p—. In fact, we often look at the sexy ladies together.

I don’t think that men, in regards to watching strippers/vegas showgirls/erotica is necessarily proof of misogyny.

I see two things going on:

1) sometimes a guy just wants to rub one out. no prob with that, don’t take it personal

2) men don’t have as many opportunities to appreciate beauty the way women do. especially if blue collar. your average blue collar guy is going to appreciate beauty of a) cars b) women

Not so sinister in the end.

Lillaliket
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Lillaliket

Nice body on the cover, don’t know whose it is though cause it sure as hell ain’t hers! It must suck to be treated like a toy – but really, her job as a glamour model (which she is in my eyes) is basically to make men feel like they could “have” her. She should stop doing those kind of shoots if she doesn’t want that kind of attention.

Winnie
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Winnie

And when she does do different types of shoots, she gets ripped to shreds by self righteous women…let the girl make her cash.

serena
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serena

Exactly Winnie! If Kate does high fashion shoots people hate her and say she has no place in the fashion world and those jobs should go to *real* models. If Kate does swimsuit spreads people call her a tart. Well love her, hate or her, or think she’s mediocre, this girl is laughing all the way to the bank…in the past year she has become a household name.

Lillaliket
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Lillaliket

I don’t mind her making money and being successful, I just think that kind of unwanted attention comes with the job, and is what has made her famous. I doubt she would be doing Elle without it!

Vanessa
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Vanessa

Versus, as much as Kate can pull comments, do you think you could also feature the Nina Dobrev Cosmo cover?? She looks amazing and is in a way Kate’s opposite!

claud
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claud

Wow, this makes me think she has some sense in her… However, posing for shoots as she does, one must expect some attention of the sort. She’s learning…

Alex
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Alex

I’m sorry but photoshopped or not she looks INCREDIBLE in this spread. I am a fan though so maybe I’m biased. I think her face is a perfect blend of classic beauty with sexy playfulness. And I genuinely think she seems confident and happy. Regarding her quote, I agree that she shouldn’t be treated like a toy- the fact that she’s a swimsuit model is irrelevant, I don’t care if you’re a p— star what you do in your professional life is different from your personal. And people shouldn’t treat/judge her differently because she chooses to make millions shaking her… Read more »

22franzs
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22franzs

Four for you, Kate Upton. You go Kate Upton.

Paisley
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Paisley

+1

I actually laughed out loud.

megs362
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megs362

All of the thumbs up!! Hahahah

lc
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lc

Lol, this girl is not a good model at all imo. I just don’t buy it; this shoot does NOTHING for me. I’m sorry she has no place in the fashion world, mags like this just use her to generate interest/publicity. Not because she rocks the look. And that quote, lol.

snugglepup
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snugglepup

“Eww she’s just famous cause of her boobs” , “her face is like totally average” , “like what she doing in the fashion biz!?” , “I know like 45789993467 women that are prettier than her”. Yeah, she’s hot right now, she’s “the thing”, like it or not, some people think she’s sexy, pretty and capable of modeling.

snugglepup
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snugglepup

Oh yeah and “lol I’m using lol to show you how I like literally lol don’t give a f*ck about her lol I’m do over herrr lol” lol guys

lc
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lc

Lol and I’m talking about people indirectly but not so subtly because I’m too afraid to…lol. Aren’t you the one who says we can “agree to disagree”? Well, agree to disagree with this: She can’t model IMO and has no place in fashion IMO and is a dime a dozen IMO. So sorry.
Man, people sure like to get riled up over this chick. LOL.

snugglepup
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snugglepup

Lol yes lol you took the bait lol yes i can live with that you have opinions and i have my own lol

lc
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lc

It was so obvious. Like, really obvious. Pretty lame. Yes, yes we do so I’m not sure what the point of that silly little dig was for lol.

lc
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lc

Pretty immature tbh lol.

Nana
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Nana

Well, to be fair most of what you say is pretty laughable anyway, snug.

snugglepup
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snugglepup

I don’t mind 🙂

lc
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lc

You wouldn’t. That’s the thing…LOL.

tequilla
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tequilla

so sorry lc but the thing is you are dime a dozen.. there are people who work in fashion and decide who is good/not a good model, and who will be on the cover of vouge. you can critic here as anonimus as you want but you are not related to that profession what so ever.

lc
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lc

Oh shut it tequilla. You haven’t even seen me and your “personal attack” approach is pathetic and useless. Kate is a dime a dozen imo. Get over it.

Nana
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Nana

Waiiiit, I’ve seen you comment negatively on other women on this site, snugglepup. So because we don’t think Funbags is attractive, you’re the righteous one? Uhh no.

rubiii
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rubiii

bleeh model
but I can relate..sometimes I feel guys are treating me like a toy. I hate it. Unfortunately most of guys are pigs

mary
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mary

Oh put a sock in it, Kate Upton….you are a swimsuit model, you make your career off your “good looks” and body. dont complain about men turning your into an object when you have 3 brain cells and cant carry on a conversation (and yes I have watched interviews of her, not the brightest bulb, as one would expect)

Ashleym
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Ashleym

Sorry but this is just offensive. You are saying dumb people should accept disrespect? What do Kate’s “3 brain cells” have to do with her modelling or with her comment? Some people were born with strong minds, some with beauty, some with both, and everyone has the right to use their best assets to get by in the world. Kate is a pretty girl with a bubbly personality, and she has maximized her success with that. If you think you’re better and you deserve more respect because you are smarter and more educated, then maybe you aren’t as smart as… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

Yep. I only hate on people if they have a bad attitude. If someone is ‘dumb’ but nice, why s— all over them? That’s just mean.

Rebekah
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Rebekah

It sounds like she wants a little more respect from men and other people… Well sweety, when you pose in MULTIPLE trashy shoots, take your clothes off for almost every photo, and must always be showing some kind of cleavage, of course men are going to respond that way. They are men. Maybe you should class yourself up a bit and you might start earning some more respect.

Winnie
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Winnie

oh yeah, let’s blame women for a man’s lack of self-control! because they’re ALL that way, aren’t they? get real!

rubiii
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rubiii

that is very sad. if woman puts a short dress they will treat her like a toy. not every guy but most of. just because someone wears short dress doesn’t mean that they want only one thing. It is sad that today people respect mostly woman who are not in revealing clothes. I mean, I am not a fan of revealing clothes but man should know that not every girl with cleveage is stupid and only for bang*ng

Mera
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Mera

Some of the girls here sound like they would support the Burka – after all, it’s not the man’s fault for being unable to control himself – it’s the trashy woman’s for you know….the crime of being born female.

rubiii
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rubiii

amm..In some cultures wearing Burka is ok! don’t get what you say sorry xD
I think man are fault because we have control..we evolved from animals. that’s what makes us different> controling

Mera
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Mera

The point of the burka is to protect women from sexual assault.

Same with ‘purdah’ in India.

The idea being that men are incapable of controlling themselves, and that any woman who leaves the house/shows her face/gets an education is automatically a s1ut who deserves to be raped.

It’s all about controlling female sexuality.

rubiii
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rubiii

I get you := i missunderstood, sorrry, thought you are saying woman are fault because of their clothes and beaviour
men…and they say we are complicated? -.-

Pi
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Pi

Well said, kate! My crush for you just get bigger and better!

sofie kittie
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sofie kittie

Kinda hard to have respect for her after seeing the Cat Daddy video

Mera
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Mera

I don’t know why people are using the Cat Daddy video as some example of extreme trashiness. She just looks goofy in it.

Heaven forbid some of the women here were to see a Jean Paul Goude photo, or something by Helmut Newton. You’d have a coronary.

Winnie
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Winnie

oh my word, the comments here are self-righteous and downright disgusting actually. so swimsuit models and models who dress provocatively don’t deserve respect, is that right? neither do stupid women, and most certainly not women who dare to have big b❆❆bs and not dress like Mammie or rock a Velma turtleneck! good God women are ridiculous! so because Kate is famous for being a swimsuit model, she should put up with, and accept being treated like a piece of meat by random men? that argument is not different than the ones made by the many idiots who defended the Steubenville… Read more »

Zoe
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Zoe

Agreed. I once, at the age of 19 had a 50+ year old man hit on me at about 9 pm as I went to Tesco without a scrap of makeup, wearing a pair of jogging bottoms and a bobble hat. :/ God help us.

KatAnne87
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KatAnne87

Beautiful young woman.

pilot
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pilot

I think it’s really sad and disappointing that so many women feel that someone like Kate doesn’t ‘deserve’ respect because of her profession or the fact that she has big b❆❆bs and wears skimpy clothing in shoots. If your qualifications to treat a human being like A HUMAN BEING mean acting and following the code which you deem to be the ‘right’ one, then that’s unfortunate. People should be treated like people whether they’re prostitutes, homeless, addicts, or all the women that some of you seem to think are ‘below you’. Why that attitude? Does Channing Tatum get told he… Read more »

Winnie
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Winnie

omg pilot, i love you. you just reiterated everything i said in my (still in moderation) comment. and you said it much more nicely than i did lol

Jessica E.
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Jessica E.

Your obsession is pathetic, Winnie. Get a job.

Winnie
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Winnie

your concern with my supposed “obsession” is pathetic, Jessica. go get laid.

tequilla
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tequilla

haha thats a good one

Mera
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Mera

Try to rebut her aguments instead of resorting to an ad hominem attack.

Mera
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Mera

That was meant for Jessica.

Jessica E.
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Jessica E.

Not really. I was scrolling down the comments and keep seeing Winnie comment on every other comment. What’s the point of arguing about this on the internet? Also pathetic? Nice, try tho.

Mera
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Mera

@Jessica E.

ENTERTAINMENT

I spend most of my time arguing with forced birthers and creationists. I know I won’t get anywhere, but it’s fun:P

Winnie
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Winnie

@Jessica E. and what’s the point of you commenting on what i write then? i knew a response that short and useless had to be hiding some sort of stupidity. “every other comment”? a handful out of 100+ at most, try again.

also, the comment you chose to comment on happened to be me agreeing with another poster, not “arguing”. get a new hobby, hun. perhaps some beginner level reading classes and remedial math? because trolling is certainly not your forte.

Casey
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Casey

“I think it’s really sad and disappointing that so many women feel that someone like Kate doesn’t ‘deserve’ respect because of her profession or the fact that she has big b❆❆bs and wears skimpy clothing in shoots” It’s more than her having breasts or wearing skimpy clothing. It’s the fact that she voluntarily subjected herself to objectification, when she chose to pose for a magazine whose sole purpose isn’t to showcase beautiful women as people, but rather to provide material for men to rub one out. It’s the fact that she is doing this as a transaction: she is getting… Read more »

lc
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lc

I agree with this comment, Casey.

Soph
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Soph

I’m not really sure what she means by this comment, she felt like she was their bachelor present? Why? She’s not a stripper? In what context is she meeting these married men and why does she feel like their bachelor present, are they flirting with her or something? I think she’s a very attractive woman but when you make your money off squeezing your b❆❆bs together and giving the camera bedroom eyes, sorry love, but you aren’t going to be treated the same as a female doctor or a professional. Maybe it’s a cruel world but get real, she doesn’t… Read more »

serena
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serena

So because she doesn’t have a professional degree (most women her age don’t) she doesn’t have the right to be treated with respect or dignity? Call her plain or chubby if you like but it’s a stretch to say she deserves to be treated poorly just because she’s a bikini/lingerie model. What about all the other lingerie models featured here, many of whom do nudes, VS Angels, SI models, do they not deserve to be treated with respect either?

Mera
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Mera

Now the haters are just grasping at straws.

KATE UPTON HASN’T CURED CANCER

THE TRAMP!

lc
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lc

Woahhhh talk about exaggeration…

Mera
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Mera

It’s called ‘using hyperbole to make a point’.

lc
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lc

I know…reel in that hyperbole because it is seriously an exaggeration to what that person said. I mean, come on.

Mera
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Mera

It is a perfectly valid way to show the fallacy of the logic used.

Why do people get an education anyways? Generally, it’s to make more money – move up in the world.

If you can reel in the mililions while you are young and attractive – do that, and you can get the education later.

So saying she is worthless because she isn’t working on a philosophy degree is ludicrous at best.

lc
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lc

Haha it felt just a *little* extreme there. And I was never a part of the whole “she’s worthless, she’s uneducated” argument…I just felt you were being a bit dramatic.

Soph
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Soph

No no of course not. I just don’t get what she means, what kind of treatment is she expecting? I don’t understand the context of the interview I suppose. I don’t think she should be treated poorly but I also don’t think she should be that surprised if she is flirted with and treated a bit more sexually by guys because that’s how she makes her money – from being a sex object. By no means do I think they should be assholes to her or not be kind to her though. And the cure cancer joke whatever – wasn’t… Read more »

Soph
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Soph

Honestly it’s like on this site you say one thing and people just take what you said to the absolute extreme.

Like Serena, I say something maybe a little bit unclear but by no means did I say she shouldnt be treated with dignity and you just paraphrase me all wrong? It’s so annoying I can’t even be bothered arguing on this site anymore it just puts me in a bad mood.

serena
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serena

Soph, I’m not putting words into your mouth – you literally said she should not expect the same treatment as a female doctor. Meaning that because she’s not an educated professional, she’s not worthy of respect. Kate’s not pretending to be smart – she literally just said “I’m not a toy, I’m a human” and apparently people take issue with that? Very strange.

Soph
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Soph

You literally ARE putting words in my mouth. You are saying I said she is not worthy of respect. I didn’t say that. I don’t think a soft core p— model would be treated by men in the same way as a different kind of woman, a professional or whatever. Sorry if that offends you, but come on, its true. They will probably think she is very sexual, and maybe easy, seeing she makes her living off selling the fantasy of sex. I don’t know how she expects men to think of her given her career? Having said that, I… Read more »

Soph
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Soph

It reminds me of this girl who lives in my area and posts very sexual photos of herself on fb. This girl is stunningly attractive and has an absolutely amazing physique i don’t even know how someone can be born with body composition that good but whatever. Anyway, guys just think she is so easy and they always flirt with her, hoping she will sleep with them. I don’t know how that makes her feel but it just makes me notice that the way you carry yourself and act, people treat you accordingly, right or wrong.

Mera
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Mera

She may very well have expected it. I am sure strippers and p— stars expect it too.

However, that doesn’t mean they have to LIKE it.

And her complaining about the treatment is her NOT LIKING IT.

Models, even HF ones, expect to be treated like pieces of meat. It’s part of the job. Doesn’t mean they have to LIKE IT, and they have every right to complain when they are treated like mere objects.

Soph
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Soph

Ok :s if Kate Upton wants to complain I couldn’t care less

Alias
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Alias

Usually she doesn’t bother me, but now it just seems like she’s unappreciative of the fame she’s gotten.

22franzs
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22franzs

Sexism prevails. George Clooney, Leonardo Dicaprio & Channing Tatum are all considered sex symbols but are treated with an enormous amount of respect. Whereas sexy women are treated like pieces of meat. The fact that this website exists goes to show patriarchy still exists. How many websites are dedicated to scrutinizing the way men look? You know what else bothers me? Leonardo Dicaprio is photographed with a different model every freaking week. Could you imagine if a female celebrity was photographed with a different man every week? And if said woman was Kate Upton? Good lord. She would never live… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

“The fact that this website exists goes to show patriarchy still exists.”

Exactly.

It’s misogyny and women fall right into that trap by hating on other women.

Casey
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Casey

“Sexism prevails. George Clooney, Leonardo Dicaprio & Channing Tatum are all considered sex symbols but are treated with an enormous amount of respect. Whereas sexy women are treated like pieces of meat. ” Maybe by other men. Personally I’ve never really held any of those people in high regard, and I don’t know too many women that have except for women as shallow as the men who only know Kate Upton by her breasts. I also don’t think this website exists because of patriarchy. It exists because of biology. Women are and have always been more judged by how they… Read more »

22franzs
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22franzs

No…just no. It has nothing to do with biology and everything to do with sexism.

serena
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serena

Sexism is rooted in biology. Imagine if men were smaller and physically weaker than men on average, and if men gave birth – the roles would be reversed, we would live in a female dominated society, men would be oppressed.

serena
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serena

*sorry I meant if men were physically weaker than women – the roles would be reversed – biology is the root of sexism.

Mera
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Mera

In many hunter gatherer societies, women and men are equal.

Interesting note: The more warlike the society, the greater the misogyny.

Also, in some cultures, it’s the men who are expected to preen in order to be chosen as a mate. Hair-makeup-jewellery – all expected of men in certain North African tribes. And the prettiest guy gets the most attention. Sure sounds like sexual objectification of men to me.

Mera
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Mera

ty

They should really read Marvin Harris’ books:

Cows Pigs Wars and Witches

and

Cannibals and Kings

Mera
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Mera

re biological determinism

I am more in favour of environmental determinism, which is what Marvin Harris writes about.

Humans are more at the mercy of the environment, and have been, than many are willing to admit.

JaneParker
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JaneParker

Didn’t read all the comments, there were too many. But I get what she’s saying. I usually say only lucky people say there’s not such thing as bad luck. And when it comes to men this is particularly true. You can do eveyrthing right and still attract all types of idiots, If she’s not falling for it… Good for her

binks
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binks

I find it odd that some people are blaming her but not mentioning that sleazy disgusting men in the scenario who HAS the problem here not her. Women can’t win for losing when it comes to other women because you damn if you do damn if you don’t. I think she looks pretty here

Isabel
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Isabel

A person deserves respect no matter what their career is and you being a SI model doesn’t give men the right to jump on you. The problem is that a big part of communication between human is subconscious and being a certain type of model may seem like sign of availability for men, even when in reality it’s just your job.

SI’s objective with this models is to appeal to men by presenting them as objects. Someone who sees her tacky pics will hardly see a good girl. That’s wrong, but that’s how it works.

Mera
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Mera

” Someone who sees her tacky pics will hardly see a good girl. That’s wrong, but that’s how it works.”

the way some of you talk, you would think that SI = Hustler magazine.

F
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F

Is Kate Upton my cup of tea? Not really – if I saw her walk down the street or at a bar I wouldn’t look twice. I will however admit that she’s a pretty girl and I can understand how she appeals to people.

I am also tall, platinum blonde with long hair, thin with D-cup breasts

Lea
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Hi @Versus can you PLEASE!!! do a post on Victoria’s Secret model Sara Sampaio. I don’t think you’ve ever did a post on her before, she is very beautiful and some people say she shares a resemblance to Adriana a bit. Here she is in some of her latest VS pics if you do make a post on her here http://www.smartologie.com/2013/08/sara-sampaio-for-victorias-secret.html and here http://xaxor.com/female/sara-sampaio-sexy-vs-lingerie-pics-part-3.html

Soph
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Soph

Hmm I think I saw her in a lynx ad maybe she’s very beautiful

Michelle
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Michelle

Sorry about that – my comment got cut off. I am also tall, blonde, thin with D cup breasts and I have never felt ‘objectified’ or mistreated by men (minus those skeezy men that yell out comments at women walking down the street – but hey they don’t count!) I am an intelligent, successful woman and I have always behaved with class. I am engaged, but I’ve dated several men who have never treated me like a ‘toy’. I think if a woman behaves in a certain way and values herself in a certain way she will receive the proper… Read more »

Lucie
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Lucie

Well Michelle, you are lucky. I’m blonde, slim, and a D cup and from the moment my b❆❆bs appeared I was written off as a dumb blonde. I honestly have never acted like a bimbo and always got good scores throughout high school and college. I even tried to dye my hair black to avoid the hateful comments but one of my teachers said “you’ll always be the blonde” so I gave up. Now as an adult, I still get a lot of “brunettes are way more respected” comments, but I realized it was a reflection of other peoples stupidity… Read more »

Mia
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Mia

I’d say your experience has been unusual then. Most women I know have been objectified in one way or another. Be at in relationships, or just by random guys on the street. Are you telling me you’ve never had to endure cat-calling? or those annoying kissy noises that guys make at women on the street? because that is a form of objectification, and it’s sickening. I recently had to change my favorite running route, because on more than one occasion I had random men harassing me and blowing me kisses while I was exercising. How disgusting is that!? This kind… Read more »

Faith
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Faith

I have to disagree I am slim red head with an hourglass figure and I have men honk at me, shout at me from there cars had men who think they can just approach me in sexually threatening manor I’ve even had men offer to pay me for sex because I look like a uni student and there up for the money. I don’t wear overly provocative clothing and constantly see men look visably shocked when I seem to state an informed opinion usually on politics or literature. I don’t act like a “bimbo” either. But apprantly wearing a pencil… Read more »

Mia
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Mia

It’s obviously because you’re a redhead, and if you didn’t want all the attention you could just dye your hair. TOTALLY KIDDING btw (I know people can’t read sarcasm). I am just baffled by all this blaming the victim talk. I’m sure each and every one of us has been objectified for being a woman at this some point. I don’t know why it’s so difficult to admit. I think it feels good to talk about it for once, because men certainly don’t get it!

Faith
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Faith

I know right screw dying it i’ll just shave my hair off how dare I provoke these men with my hair!! And your so right we put the blame on women as if it is our fault if a man is being creepy or being untoward with us its this kind of behaviour that supports rape culture its pretty depressing that we as women don’t support each other but blame each other.

Mera
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Mera

First mention I have heard of rape culture over here:P

/clap

Winnie
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Winnie

“(minus those skeezy men that yell out comments at women walking down the street – but hey they don’t count!)”

that’s just the thing–those men DO count.

kat55
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kat55

kate should know every job has its cons..of course she was going to be objectified..she needs to deal with that gracefully. why do some women complain about everything? i would never, ever complain about something like this publicly. how embarrassing.

Grecia
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Grecia

I’ve seen that she’s been compared to vs models since they of course model in lingerie/swimsuits as well. And I do find her look to be kinda trashy but not because of her boobs, they’re quite nice actually lol but bc of her cat daddy video. You can show skin you just have to do it tastefully. She’s a pretty girl though

Lola
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Lola

Ridiculous attention seeker!!! Why whine about the consumers she’s targeting? She’s bitting the hand that feeds her. She and her agency know that she’s obviously NOT a high fashion model. Her appearance targets men to buy magazines such as Sports Illustrated for the sole purpose of sex. If those perverts did clear their s— up, she would be unemployed.

Mera
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Mera

Attention seeking is part of the job. Public figures are by definition narcissists.

tequilla
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tequilla

lol i dont understand how is she more s—ty than any other bikini model. her vouge pics are beautifull. american girls might be the sickest-the other day my friends and i sitting on the beach in bikinis, we notice bunch of american tourists(women) staring at as like they are weighting us so we were like wtf is wrong with them, is that polite in america,to stare? bc here its not!

Lau
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Lau

No offense but this is my opinion. Most women I’ve met irl are not smart (or classy). And the same is with women on this website. But a lot of them think they are and some of the hate reasons just prove it. So maybe Kate Upton is a bimbo, but at least embraces it and that’s why she is popular. Because imo there’s nothing more annoying than a woman who think she’s being smart, but really isn’t.

Mera
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Mera

Agreed.

snoops
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snoops

Most women you have met “irl” are not smart? And you don’t think that says something about YOU? Sounds like all the smart, interesting people are avoiding you!

Lau
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Lau

Yes how did you know, women are really trying to avoid me. You know what’s funny? Even if that was true, I don’t care if they did. But your comment shows neither your intelligence or people who are prejudice (judging a book by its cover).

D
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D

Well, modelling is based on appearances so by getting into the industry you are basically saying you are okay with being someones toy lol.

Mara
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Mara

Of course she is absolutely right complaining about this thing, yet this quote makes her sound quite dumb/unreflected/brainwashed, as she’s working for an industry that is implicitly encouraging and feeding the objectification of women. If she doesn’t realize what her image is standing for she is indeed not the brightest bulb. I’m absolutely not slamming her for showing skin, being well-endowed, being sexually suggestive – just saying that she’s participating in the depiction of women as sexual objects. If she’s upset with what males are brought up to think about and how they treat women, she should start by looking… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

Quiverfull women, who dress modestly, are also participating in the objectification of women.

Mara
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Mara

Yeah, that’s right, and I wrote “I’m not slamming her for showing skin […]”. Skimpy outfits = objectification was absolutely not what I was saying.

Mera
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Mera

I am saying that Burka’s, Quiverfull dress, LDS dress etc, though MODEST, also treat women as sexual objects/property – it’s just expressed in a different way.

Mara
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Mara

Yeah, I agree, though I don’t really see why you are bringing this up here.

Mera
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Mera

Just illustrating that one can participate in the objectification of women without showing any skin.

There are many forms that objectification takes.

Women as property in certain fundamentalist societies is one example.

And in the Quiverfull societies, and when people like Paul Ryan and Richard Mourdock say that ‘rape is just another method of conception’ or ‘rape is god’s gift’ what they are saying is that women were made to have babies AND SHOULD HAVE NO SAY IN THE MATTER, THAT’S ALL THEY ARE FOR. That is an example of what is known as *reproductive objectification*

Winnie
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Winnie

i think people are misreading Kate’s quote. she is not complaining about being objectified or sexually desired, she is complaining about being treated like an object! plenty of women are sex symbols and are objectified! Jennifer Aniston posed topless for GQ just last year, didn’t she? plenty of celebs do that, and worse (Vanessa Hudgens’ countless leaked nude pictures, Rihanna’s fame-wh0ring on instagram, Miley Cyrus being half naked all the damn time)–i bet she doesn’t get treated like Kate or other swimsuit models and they objectify themselves 24/7. Kate does her skimpy photoshoots and then puts on her ugly grandma… Read more »

Mara
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Mara

I absolutely agree that nothing Kate is doing or could possibly do is making it okay for any man to treat her like an object. And it’s certainly not making her a sl-t; I have no sympathy for people using the term sl-tty do describe a way of (not) dressing. I’m really just trying to say, if you don’t like the way society teaches us to treat women and think about them, don’t work in an industry contributing to this issue in such an obvious way. Of course her career and image don’t justify the treatment she’s had to experience,… Read more »

Soph
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Soph

I totally agree Mara! That is really exactly what I think. That’s what I meant by my comments bellow that posters took an issue with – I was trying to say that that’s part of her career, she sexualizes herself so why is she so surprised when guys treat her like she’s probably really sexual etc? In my opinion, women who sexualize themselves for a living, making themselves an object of desire that’s their choice but I do think it contributes to something not very nice for a lot of women. Now I don’t know much about it and I’m… Read more »

Mera
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Mera

The big corporations are to blame for sexualiziing children.

There is a lot of money to be made by selling stuff to children, and by convincing them to act/behave a certain way – and thus buy into a certainly lifestyle that will then support certain companies.

Mia
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Mia

I’m sorry, but anytime you (as a woman) experience being cat-called, you are being objectified. Who here has not had to endure that at one point in their life? It happens when you’re decked out to the nines, and it happens on days when you are in sweats and no makeup. It has nothing to do with “asking for it” or wanting attention. It is boorish behavior, and I have rarely seen women cat-calling men in the same manner.

Gabriela
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Gabriela

Thats exactly why I avoid those latino markets with those perverted old men standing outside. I hate them!!!!

Gabriela
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Gabriela

Thats exactly why I avoid those latino markets with those perverted old men standing outside.

Gabriela
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Gabriela

Thats exactly why I avoid those latino markets with those perverse old men standing outside.

Gabriela
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Gabriela

Thats exactly why I avoid those latino markets with those dirty old men standing outside.

Gabriela
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Gabriela

Thats exactly why I avoid those latino markets with those nasty old men standing outside.

Emilie
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Emilie

At least not sober, lol

Gabriela
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Gabriela

Kate Upton shouldnt be famous. All what shes good at is showing her t–s to the whole world

Gabriela
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Gabriela

Kate Upton shouldnt be famous. All what shes good at is showing her b❆❆bs to the whole world

Mera
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Mera

Well you’re not good at posting, that’s for sure.

Gabriela
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Gabriela

Neither are you. I can say whatever I want to.

Gabriela
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Gabriela

Neither are you

Gabriela
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Gabriela

Neither are you and you dont see me b—ing about it

Mera
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Mera

uh huh

Mera
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Mera

IN case you haven’t noticed, you’ve been posting everything you write up to FIVE TIMES.

Iana
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Iana

I like Kate well enough as a model, I think she has a very pretty face, but she -really- needs to close her mouth more (in a stop posing w/ it open way)

Emilie
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Emilie

A girl has to breathe…

Lia
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Lia

I hate everyone who chooses to be shown with fur.
‘The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.’
I do not understand the -completely unnecessary- wearing of fur. It’s cruel.

jenp
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jenp

She’s only considered a toy to high profile men (men who are more famous or have more money than her). Of course those are the only men she’s interested in because she wants to date up.

When she starts surrounding herself with worth while men based upon their character, not wallets or fame, then she’ll be treated appropriately.

Winnie
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Winnie

hmm…that’s an interesting theory, but i doubt it’s the case. there are women on this site from all walks of life (i’m assuming) who are nowhere near Kate’s position and probably don’t deal with “high profile men” yet attest to being treated similarly, so i don’t think gold-digging is her problem

Emilie
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Emilie

Now I KNOW she is gorgeous, but I am not a fan of her look in this spread. Looks cheap, but I find Elle to have that look. I loved her Vogue shoot, it was really inspiring and I still have the pics. I wish her (and other models) stopped talking but I try not to pay attention and look at the pretty women

Nene
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Nene

The biggest disadvantage of having big boobies is that they can’t be hidden or covered unlike an ass. If u try to cover them u end up looking frumpy or too big up there.If you wear normal clothes they tend to look ‘showy’ and if you dress up(evening clothes,party dresses,etc),you might end up looking s—ky if u aren’t too careful.Hence women with big boobies really can’t win. I have small b❆❆bs but i’ve got a few friends who have them so i know their plight. That been said i think Kate shouldn’t complain that much cos of the kind of… Read more »