Crystal Renn, Hot Models, Skinny Versus Curvy

Regular Model and Plus-Size Model Pose Side-by-Side in the Same Outfits

Skinny-VS-Curvy-in-V-Magazine-Jacquelyn-Jablonski-and-Crystal-Renn - Regular Model and Plus-Size Model Pose Side-by-Side in the Same Outfits

This is a first! And I like it!

V Magazine decided to feature in their upcoming (and probably controversial) issue dedicated to plus-size and ALL-size beauties 2 models: one typically skinny, one voluptuously plus-size…  and their wearing identical outfits.

The names of the models? Jacquelyn Jablonski and Crystal Renn! The editorial is named “One Size Fits All” and it’s shot by photographer Terry Richardson.

stats - Regular Model and Plus-Size Model Pose Side-by-Side in the Same Outfits

P.S.:  A few months ago, most sources were saying that Crystal’s measurements were 39-32-43.

Skinny-VS-Curvy-in-V-Magazine-Jacquelyn-Jablonski-and-Crystal-Renn-2 - Regular Model and Plus-Size Model Pose Side-by-Side in the Same Outfits

See 2 more outfits side-by-side after the jump!

You HAVE to tell us what you think about this editorial!

Skinny-VS-Curvy-in-V-Magazine-Jacquelyn-Jablonski-and-Crystal-Renn-3 - Regular Model and Plus-Size Model Pose Side-by-Side in the Same Outfits

Skinny-VS-Curvy-in-V-Magazine-Jacquelyn-Jablonski-and-Crystal-Renn-4 - Regular Model and Plus-Size Model Pose Side-by-Side in the Same Outfits

Incoming search terms:

plus size models vs thin model, plus size poses, what size are models usually, regular models, skinny vs curvy, plus size model vs regular model, normal size models, how to pose plus size women, normal sized models, plus size posing guide
Previous ArticleNext Article
Editor of Skinny vs Curvy Website

Leave a Reply

249 Comments on "Regular Model and Plus-Size Model Pose Side-by-Side in the Same Outfits"

Notify of
avatar
Sort by:   newest | oldest | most voted
lila
Guest
lila

FIRST!!!

Umm well I have to be honest but I honestly prefer the regular model.

Alyssa
Guest
Alyssa

Hmmm, to be honnest, I’m not sure which.
Are either of them photoshopped?

I wish they did the exact same pose… but the outfits…. yesh!

neutra
Guest

Of course they’re photoshopped. See the pics I posted in my comment (about common 100!) and the job they have done on Crystals legs is quite significant. They appear firm here, when in reality they aren’t. Jacs legs seem a little softer than they do normally.

charley
Guest
charley

i know people will say crystal looks ok because she can carry the eight well at her height, but im 6ft tall and a US 8 and i would say she looks similar to me in these pictures.
if she is really 5’9 and and a 12, i think she must have had a lot of photoshop done!

Anna
Guest
Anna

I’m the same height as her, and a US size 8/10 and I look about the same as her.

federica
Guest
federica

totally agree…

sequined
Guest
sequined

me too.
and crystal looks like she’s trying too hard.

belle
Guest
belle

i feel bad for saying this but i really do think the “traditional” thin model looks better.

terri
Guest
terri

me too

Suzy
Guest

The plus-size model needs to make more eye contact with the camera. I kinda am leaning toward the regular model as well, probably because of her striking eyes.

fidigum
Guest
fidigum

i have to say I think Crystal looks sooo hot! The skinny girl has no personality! I always thought skinny girls made better models, but now I’m starting to rethink my position on this issue. The outfits look good on both girls, but I think crystal is a better model.

Laura
Guest
Laura

I liked the body of the plus size model better but somehow, maybe it’s her open mouth…she makes the photos look so cheap…but i prefer her body

Anna
Guest
Anna

I agree the open mouth thing makes her look s—ky, not nice at all.

spankxx
Guest
spankxx

both girls have thier mouth open in all the pictures except one…

Ange
Guest
Ange

They both look great. However, I don’t get the point of pitting them against each other. It’s like a pose off. Why can’t they just feature all sizes throughout the magazine in different pictorials?

And people make such a big deal about Miley C. being provocative. This kid is about the same age and there probably won’t be a peep about her age as it relates to the nature of these pics.

Jenny
Guest
Jenny
Actually, just like with the weight thing, there’s been a constant battle over what age is appropriate for models and stuff like that. Personally I think it’s a context thing. V is a magazine that’s marketed for an older crowd, like the 20-30 somethings and so on. This model is not supposed to be a role model for kids like Miley is. I bet you there aren’t many, if any pre-teens or people in their young teens picking up V or Vogue or RUSSH and getting ideas from it, whereas Miley is in the spotlight for this demographic and she’s… Read more »
CoffeeGirl
Guest
CoffeeGirl

Regular

beckers!
Guest
beckers!

Yea i like them both, and if there were this continuety through magz of different sized models I’d be very happy.

kikki
Guest
kikki

crystal!wow!

ann
Guest

Those are some horrid outfits.

Juliette
Guest
Juliette

I think the thinner one is just a better model. Maybe I’ve watched to much ANTM and been force-fed too much “smile with your eyes” mantra but the plus-size is not grinning at me in an ocular manner.

I think the thin one looks much better and she her poses read more “model” to me. The larger one makes me think of some girl who was pulled from the mall and told to start modeling.

Jemima
Guest
Jemima

I laughed out loud at the ANTM sentence.

I like Crystal in these photos. I’m kind of fifty-fifty here. A balance of both body types in fashion magazines would be nice.
I do understand why they made them both wear the same stuff: to show that
“plus sized” models can wear a lot of the same clothing and look good.
What I don’t understand is why they did the same poses.

ladyredlocks
Guest
ladyredlocks

I think they both look equally “model-esque”. However, I was shocked to read that Crystal Renn is only 23! Because of her weight, I immediately assumed she was older. Like 30ish!

Casey
Guest
Casey

I like it. That way you can see what the clothes would look like if you are a thin person or if you’re a thick person. You may not quite be the same frame as either girl, but you can at least get a better general idea.

Also, I don’t think they’re being pit against each other. I think they’re just side by side for comparison. And I don’t have a favorite, they look about the same level to me.

AE
Guest

I like the one on the left better.

Side note, funny how the size of the accessories seem to change because of the size of the model, esp the bracelets in the last photo

Polly
Guest
Polly

That girl Crystal needs to shut her mouth and make eye contact with the camera before I can pick which model I like better.

captain obvious
Guest
captain obvious

You do realize that the skinny model has her mouth open as well in 3 of the 4 pictures, right?

7Nyne
Guest
7Nyne

It kinda looks like; the before and after photoshop.
They both look good, they really do but I would like to look more like the regular model than the plus-sized one.

saribird
Guest
saribird

i know chrystal only from photos on this side here and i have to say that i haven’t been much of a fan of her figure so far…. anyway, i love her in those pictures – especially- in contrast to that other model. maybe it’s really just that you have to get used to a new, more normal, display of the female body…

Christina
Guest
Christina

The second photo is not fair. The skinny one is posing in one of the couture poses designed to make her look ever skinner and more angular -shoulders jutted forward in a concave fashion. Both models look great though.

CC
Guest

This whole thing is unfair, I feel like it should have been done with a “normal” model and not plus size considering plus size and high fashion are totally different industries.

mEEE
Guest
mEEE

I always felt that the right clothes will always look good on the right body. Although Crystal is heavier, all of the outfits she is wearing (including the tight ones on pics 1 & 3) are flattering on her body type.

Hannah
Guest
Hannah

The regular one looks better here, simply because these are clothes that would flatter a thin figure only. The plus size model would look gorgeous in a tailored, figure-appropriate dress for example rather than spandex miniskirts or asymmetric tank tops.

Eliza
Guest

AGREE!
The thin one is so much better

Niva
Guest
Niva

Odd, the regular sized model has the same measurements as I do, except I’m short.
The outfits..ehh.
They both look good, Crystal is beautiful and looks good. I personally would love to see more models her size in magazines.

Kari
Guest
Kari

I’m a shorty with the same measurements (except my waist is smaller), too!

fierce
Guest
fierce

I like that the photos of Crystal show that having thicker thighs can still look good.

neutra
Guest
neutra

In life they wouldn’t look near as good though- they would be very soft and lack the definition that the photo gives them.

neutra
Guest

Here are Crystals legs unedited:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/30538951824816/

neutra
Guest

Ooophs, wrong link, that’s Jac unedited. Here is Crystal: http://beccasbirdnest.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/crystal-renn1.jpg?w=618&h=799

Claudia
Guest
Claudia

But you also have to consider the light, which would probably show cellulite on any girls’ legs…

walnuts
Guest
walnuts

am i the only one who doesnt think they look so far apart in size? especially in the 2nd and 3rd pics? i think they both look great but i thought a 2 and a 12 would be a huuuuge difference and here they only look to be about 3 sizes apart. maybe because of photoshop? id like to see the pics before editing. also id like to see a medium sized model (size 4, 6, or 8) in between them… i bet she’d look the best !!

Hannah
Guest
Hannah

I think it’s a combination of heavy photoshopping on the plus-size model and her being able to carry her weight well at her height.

katie
Guest
katie

heavy photoshop
she is nowhere close to that size
the only way plus sized models can look good (or passable) in most high fashion clothing is if they are extensively photoshopped.

look at the link of crystal that neutra originally posted

http://beccasbirdnest.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/crystal-renn1.jpg?w=618&h=799

KD
Guest
I’m certain BOTH pics were photoshopped~that’s the world of editorial modeling~you will never see a realistic photo of ANY model in a magazine~so all the photoshop comments are meaningless. My theory on why opinions are so diverse is this: If you are uncomfortable with “sexy”~ you will more likely prefer Jac.. if you embrace sexy~you will more likely prefer Crys~she definitely exudes sex appeal. And who cares what ANTM says (& I love that show)!? What this really proves is there is NO “standard” of beauty, and that it truly is “in the eye of the beholder”~regardless of what the… Read more »
KD
Guest

Actually, she DOES look to be the same size, just photoshopped, as you said. Cellulite doesn’t = bigger.

christina
Guest
christina

of course the outfits flatter chrystal, too. they photoshopped her! (not saying they didn’t also photoshop the thin girl, but probably not as much).

I’m sorry for saying this, but I prefer the “regular” model.

neutra
Guest

Jacquelyn is amazing. She has a very fresh and interesting face- http://www.imagebam.com/image/97f5e857268333/
When it comes to high fashion, Jac is definitely the more desirable one and the girl who i would want to see more of. If we are talking catalogues though, then Crystal would suit that market more.

I’d kill for Jacs legs- they are incredible! http://i31.tinypic.com/2vtv5so.jpg

neutra
Guest

People shouldn’t be apologising for liking Jac the most. You like what you like, and if people accuse you of “not supporting real woman” for liking the regular model, then they clearly haven’t taken any biology lessons.

A woman is a woman regardless of size, but when it comes to high fashion modelling, I definitely prefer Jac. Crystal is beautiful, but it would never ever be a figure i would want for myself.

As for Terry Richardson… I wish that pervert would go back into the hole he came from.

bigvinamac
Guest

what you said i completely agree with. i will say i prefer both.

Vlada
Guest
Vlada
Editorials are basically a house of illusions and they could make anybody look good if they set their minds to it (case in point: the editorial with Susan Boyle). However, in real life, the reality for most people is that being Crystal’s size comes with a host of related flaws: flab, cellulite, belly rolls, and other things that nobody but fat activists finds attractive. Most straight-size models look similar in candids as they do in editorials: more bony, but otherwise not too different. Plus-size models, on the other hand, usually look very different in real life than they do in… Read more »
Ange
Guest
Ange

Anyone can have cellulite and what does activism have to do with size?

I don’t think anyone looks as shapely or as smooth as they do when photoshopped, regardless of their size.

neutra
Guest

Thankyou for having the courage to say what a lot of people are thinking. I agree 100 %.

neutra
Guest

I was agreeing with Vlada btw.

Alias
Guest
Alias

Vlada and neutra I agree with you both.

Casey
Guest
Casey

Agree.

Most size 12 women look as much as Crystal as they look like Jacqueline…meaning not so much. And that’s without taking Photoshop into account.

But I do think big women can get a rough estimate of what clothes would look like on them by seeing Crystal wear them.

prettygirl
Guest
prettygirl
@ vlada you are going on as if crystal is obese which she is not, she just has more weight on her than the other girl. i guess people have different standards of beauty because i would not want to be as thin as jacquelyn. i think women prefer the stick thin look, whereas men prefer more curvy women. me and my sister look alike facially but i have more of a curvy body and i get more attention from men than her. i think jacquelyn is more high fashion whereas crystal is sexier. i do think that high fashion… Read more »
neutra
Guest

Crystal isn’t obese, but she is definitely overweight: http://schonheit.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/plus-size-model-crystal-renn-in-2.jpg

When they say that “men like curvy woman”, they mean a good bust-waist-hip ratio, not the “rolls” kind of curvy. Scarlet J is sexy curvy, but Crystal is an overweight curvy. She is beautiful in her own way, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think her body she be idealised in any way, just like an underweight girls body shouldn’t be either.

Casey
Guest
Casey

I know it’s not mainstream but I could see a lot of men liking her figure. There is nothing about her figure that screams unhealthy or bad eating habits, just like being slightly underweight isn’t automatically starvation and anorexia.

prettygirl
Guest
prettygirl

overweight does not always mean fat, alot of atheletes are overweight according to scales but they are all muscle. crystal looks fine, she is not even fat. standing next to jacquelyn who wouldn’t look huge

Alias
Guest
Alias

Casey I agree with you… But I don’t even consider Crystal “curvy”. Personally I think that she has a lot of bodyfat which is disguising her “curves”. When I think curves I think Marisa Miller or Kim K. or J.LO, someone like that with ACTUAL curves. I am not trying to be rude or offend ANYONE but Crystal is just what I would call fat. Plain and simple. I mean, people call thin girls “skinny” so a chubby person is “fat.”

Alias
Guest
Alias

Woops I meant that I agree with neutra

Jenny
Guest
Jenny

Two hot ladies

steph
Guest
steph

Nicely said

luvme 2
Guest
luvme 2

i think somewhere right inbetween the two would look nice.

-
Guest

Yes, I agree.

Julie
Guest
Julie

I prefer Jac. Not because she is thinner but because I like her character. Also I just wanted to share a thought, I think models need to be thin because any clothes work on them where as if they were heavier there would be some things that wouldn’t look as flattering compared to if they were on someone thinner. Also if they are all the same size, people don’t have to waste time sizing or doing fittings. It’s sad but it just works better this way.

Alias
Guest
Alias

Well said, that is EXACTY why thin girls are used.

Ren
Guest
Also it’s not supposed to be about the model. I get that we live in a culture were models become there own celebrity. But as somebody who lives for design, it really peeves me off when people act as though the model is the main fixture. The clothes damnit! They are what’s important! Honestly, it might sound rude, but models are walking hangers. They are there to display something that actually takes talent. That people put blood, sweat, tears, and a hell of a lot more into. And despite what Tyra wants you to believe, models are a dime a… Read more »
jjj
Guest
This is really a perfect example on how being fit, taking care of yourself, working hard keeping yourself healthy makes you stand out. The fit model certainly stands out above the other model. While both models are made out to look similar, the fit model shows you the photographic differences. She looks much more energetic, photographs better, more shapely, catches the eye better, she looks more into the photographs, it is really night and day. While thinner, she also has more shapely legs than the curvy model. Generally thinner models have more shapely legs even though it is against popular… Read more »
Fluffykins
Guest
Fluffykins

How do you know that Crystal isn’t fit, taking care of herself, and working hard to keep herself healthy? Bcause she isn’t thin? JJJ, just as you think it is wrong when people assume a slim girl is unhealthy because she was photographed when she was bigger, don’t you think it is just as wrong for you to assume that a bigger girl is unhealthy because she isn’t thin?

jjj
Guest
I never said the plus sized model was not “fit, taking care of herself, and working hard to keep herself healthy”. I agree with you that it is certainly wrong to assume the bigger girl is unhealthy because she isn’t thin, and I never said the plus size girl wasn’t healthy. The plus size girl could certainly have a very slow metabolism or any other unusual medical reason why she would hold onto the excess body fat if she indeed is fit and works out. Or she could be over eating healthy foods. I am just pointing out the obvious… Read more »
Fluffykins
Guest
Fluffykins
Sorry, but the way you worded your post, you looked like you were saying the thin model was fit, taking care of herself, and working hard to keep herself healthy, and the other one wasn’t. I know that there are loads of benefits that people can get from being fit, eating right, and being healthy, but I also know that being fit, eating right, and being healthy doesn’t necessarily mean that the person is going to be smaller either(I know I wasn’t, 5’2″, 135 lbs., BMI of 24.7, and a size 8 ) wich is the implication I got from… Read more »
lucia
Guest
lucia
the funny thing is that having worked in the industry, I can tell you that lots of models go to extreme unhealthy lengths. to stay thin. I’m not saying this jac girl does it, but I know many young high fashion models do some horrendeus things to stay thin. not healthy by any means. then you have a few who are naturally very thin, and just eat whatever they want and rarely workout- they are the minority but i wouldn’t describe eating whatever you want and not working out healthy. In fact some models who I have known (they are… Read more »
Alias
Guest
Alias

JJJ I agree with you, great observations.

Hydrangea
Guest
Hydrangea

Both look great in my opinion. I did find my eye always moving to the Plus-Size figure though. I think they both look sexy. Bigger bodies should be featured more often. Gorgeous, both.

Susan
Guest
Susan

As much as I hate saying this the thinner model looks much better. In photos one always looks bigger so maybe that’s why. Crystal has a really nice healthy body though.

Julie
Guest
Julie
Just adding to my comment two above^ I just wanted to say that although I think most clothes work better on thin models that doesn’t mean I think people have to be size 2 thin to look good or look good in clothes, I just think most of the designer clothes espcially the big bulky ones or the really tight ones flatter a size 2 modelest figure better and that is probably why models are so thin. It was just a thought and I didn’t want anyone to think that im someone that thinks thin is the only way to… Read more »
Julie
Guest
Julie

lol this comment was in addition to MY latest comment above not my comment two aove.

O
Guest

definitely regular

Kari
Guest
Kari

Crystal has some crackhead poses

Nikki
Guest
Nikki
I really like seeing both i’m a thicker girl myself so it nice seeing the plus sized models (even though they aren’t that plus sized) every once in awhile I Like the points everyone else has made the female more comes in all shapes sizes and forms. I personally think models of all shapes and sizes should be in every magazine it should be a standard i like looking at the really skinny girls its a fact the more you stare at all the skinny models the more you cal yourself down or make more efforts to be like that… Read more »
APL
Guest

Why does it have to be one extreme or the other? The thinner model looks much better but why not have a size 6 or 8 for the other model? That way she would look good AND be healthy!

padme
Guest
padme

Like a size 12 is unhealthy? She’s not exactly obese. Why not have the 6 or 8 model instead of the 2? She looks sicker than Crystal.

APL
Guest

She very well could be unhealthy, but alot of models are naturally very slender, which sucks for the rest of us. However I don’t think a high body fat percentage should be promoted in an obese society.

Chloe
Guest
Chloe
Probably one of the worst moments in my life is when I turned off my IPod and over heard two women standing behind me critiquing my body. Not because I was over weight – but because I was too skinny! It’s hurtful no matter what size you are…and at fifteen I took it really personally. I’m happy that they have BOTH shapes because some people are naturally very slender, and some people naturally are bigger. The important thing is to be healthy, and to accept that there are differences and that both are acceptable. I like issues with “real” sized… Read more »
bia
Guest

I’m almost 100% sure those women were jealous of you, lol.

Chloe
Guest
Chloe

They were talking about how I was probably anorexic and how sickly I looked. Mind you, I was fifteen then (seventeen now) and they were like twenty something. Looking back at it I see it as being rude and way out of line, but it still bothers me, even though I weigh more now.

Mnemosyne
Member
Mnemosyne

Crystal looks ridiculous in these photos. Jac is a lovely model though.

Natasha
Guest
Natasha

LOVES IT!!!!!! Although I do think Crystal is trying to hard and I would’ve loved to see her look dead on at the camera rather than the side profiles whatever their called. Anyways the concept is DOPE and Jacquelyn is giving it to the camera 🙂

alexad
Guest
its funny how nice and smooth she is. i am size 4-6 and i weight right for my height (5″5, 130) yet i have little bumps and lumps here and there from not being “skinny”. being an apple shape, i have very large breasts (DD/DDD), my waist has a bit of muffin top and my thights and arms arent perfectly sculpted(i exercise!). i guess that could be fixed if i lost 10-15 lbs. my point is i dont get it how crystal can pull off clothes like that at size 12. i think the true difference between models and regular… Read more »
alexad
Guest

p.s. she looks like a regular model if they clicked on her and said make every part of her equally larger, like an englarged picture

missbliss
Guest
missbliss
You took the words right out of my mouth, (or mind, lol). I was thinking the same thing. I have a very similar body to yours, and was thinking similarly. Being a plus sized model isn’t something anyone can do, simply because by being fat w/a pretty face. Clearly, you *still* have to be tall, you *still* have to have good proportions, you still have to have nice bone structure. And I see some comments saying that in person, the plus sized model would be soft and dimply looking – I don’t know. They may not be super fit in… Read more »
Vlada
Guest
Vlada

Crystal has plenty of lumps and bumps and rolls, as well as cellulite – it’s very visible in candids of her. i think someone posted some links in this section.

The reason she looks flawless in the above photos is b/c of photoshop. have you noticed how she has the exact same skin as the thin model, w/ the exact same texture and shade?

Amy
Guest

I think the thin model looks better.

Victoria
Guest
Victoria

It is clear with the above posts that most people seem to project their neurosis onto the models. I think we should all consider how much culture influences our aesthetics.

Shannon
Guest
Shannon

ITA with this comment it’s like brainwashing the media has projected a smaller frame so it’s easier to see the smaller model as having a better nody the the curvy girl. If we grew up with images of women of all shapes,sizes and colour our definitian of beauty wouldn’t be as vapid as it is now, imagine if we grew up with all body sizes that are healthy at any size it wouldn’t be such a big deal to have a “skinny and curvy model” to prove some type of point.

ann
Guest
A very astute comment. Too many people do not question WHY they feel the way they feel on certain issues. The truth of the matter is our reactions are programmed in a very predictable way on a variety of issues. If this is intentional or unintentional can be debated. In my view, the only reason one model is considered “Regular” and one is considered “Plus”, is because of a completely subjective viewpoint. That view is colored by the images we are shown on a day to day basis. These responses are not of actual people with their own formulated opinion… Read more »
Alias
Guest
Alias

Honestly, it’s not just our culture that influences me. I would STILL find a thin person more attractive. I would STILL find a lower body-fat percentage sexy as hell. Sorry but it’s just my truth. The culture has nothing to do with me not finding a fat person as attractive as a thin in shape human.

neutra
Guest
In our affluent world, we’re bombarded with cheap, easy and fatty meals, and we can easily avoid any physical activity in our day thanks to all the technological advancements. That is, it’s easy to be fat. In poor countries, were supplies are extremely limited, being fat is a sign of wealth- it means you can afford to eat, and you have people do the menial labour for you. As such, I really commend people who are slim. Not so much the boney skinny fat ones, but the ones who have muscle tone and who it’s obvious by their bodies definition… Read more »
neutra
Guest

Oh I forgot to add that larger builds who are fit and healthy are, in my experiences, are definitely in the minority.

Alias
Guest
Alias

neutra you took the words out of my mouth! I couldn’t have written it any better! I totally agree with you about keeping healthy and in shape. It takes willpower and dedication to do what most people are not willing to do. Plus it’s sexy when someone has a nice toned body and their bone structure is beautifully sculpted. It shows all their hard work and I love to admire it.

ann
Guest

You cannot implicitly state that your opinion was shaped outside of the current media ideal and your exposure to it in your life. To state such a thing ignores the large body of evidence gathered through years of psychological study. It is intellectually dishonest. This is not me stating Crystal looks better than Jac. I actually am not partial to either one but, I am not dishonest. I know i am suspect to influence as a scientifically minded person. I guard against subjectivity masking as objectivity.

Casey
Guest
Casey
I think it’s very possible for Alias to have preferences not influenced by culture. There’s a whole other half of psychology that deals with inherent preferences due to genetics, and interactions between those genes and the environment, not just the environment itself. If we were solely influenced by the environment, we would very well all share the same opinions. Besides, the media really doesn’t have as much influence as people give it. Personal interactions, life experiences and local “culture” are much more influential on our preferences, and I have found that around me, people very much prefer size 6-10 over… Read more »
Alias
Guest
Alias
Casey exactly… There are so many other variables with what makes a person have a unique taste. It’s not like every single person grows up reading “Vogue” and is then brainwashed into believing twig thin is “better” or something like that. I actually grew up in a very active family with an EXTREMELY active lifestyle. My family and I did many sports and we are thin strong, fit – and may I add, attractive – people. So NO the media did not influence me to lean towards thin in that way, it happened naturally as that is how I was… Read more »
Victoria
Guest
Victoria
Well, how do you ladies -those of you state that your preference for thinness is somehow innate and exists outside of media influence -explain different ideals of female beauty throughout time. In the Victorian era, the Gibson girl was the ideal of feminine bodily beauty. She was ideally tall, with large breasts and hips and a tiny waist. And of course, everyone has heard the Marilyn Monroe argument. Thus, given these historical artifacts how can one justify indifference to cultural norms that urge us to become thinner thinner thinner? Btw, I want to say that (save for those individuals who… Read more »
ann
Guest

No one shares the same environment so no one can share the same opinions.

“Besides, the media really doesn’t have as much influence as people give it.”

Where’s your data?

Alias
Guest
Alias
Casey clearly states: “If we were solely influenced by the environment, we would very well all share the same opinions.” There is your data. @Victoria – Very well written comment. I must say though, I still do not believe the culture has influenced me in any way. That is not to say that others are not influenced by it, as I am positive there are others who most certainly are influenced by what they read, see on tv ect. I suppose I am not influenced because I HAVE seen the super thin fashion models and I would not want to… Read more »
Casey
Guest
Casey
Well, true, no one shares the same environment. It depends on how we are raised, who we talk to…etc. But doesn’t temperament (aka genes) have a lot to do with it? If you are an insecure person, inherently, is that not going to effect your interpretation of people’s comments about you and thus activate defense mechanisms, and aren’t those going to affect your preferences about body types? Of course, genetics and inherited preferences aren’t the only factor. Probably not even the main one. Environment has a lot to do with it. It’s just, you mentioned media, and media does have… Read more »
ann
Guest
“But doesn’t temperament (aka genes) have a lot to do with it? ” Genes and personality have not been proven to be related. You do not understand DNA. “If you are an insecure person, inherently, is that not going to effect your interpretation of people’s comments about you and thus activate defense mechanisms, and aren’t those going to affect your preferences about body types?” Yes and no, some insecure people will react in that way. Some will not. You are making assumptions. “It’s just, you mentioned media, and media does have an influence but not nearly as strong as temperament… Read more »
Casey
Guest
Casey
“Genes and personality have not been proven to be related. You do not understand DNA.” I think hundreds of scientists who write for behavior genetics and animal behavior journals would greatly disagree with you. I don’t follow your DNA comment, but either way, I am quite familiar with it. As for media influence, no one is saying that it doesn’t have an influence. I’ve taken the social/personality/cross-cultural psychology classes. I’ve done research in those fields. Yes, I know it has an influence. However, when you’re looking at the environment variables you will find that proximity plays a huge role, and… Read more »
Alias
Guest
Alias
ann you made a wonderful comment, however, I still stand by my comment. I do not think that simply because I do not believe the media has influenced me, that some how it is my ego that is causing me to rise above? I’m sorry, but I really just think that sounds ridiculous. I am a person, like many other people who like to think for themselves. I mean, how MUCH do you think the media affects people? I feel that this topic we are talking about is spreading far out where it becomes difficult to know specifically what we… Read more »
Casey
Guest
Casey
Alias, if you want to know, here it is: 🙂 In terms of body size, I did used to be influenced by the media. Well, not quite. It’s more like, I bought into it because I am thin myself, and I wanted to believe thin was better because I would get attacked by bigger people. But since then I’ve learned to accept that even the bigger girls can be hot. In terms of style/fashion, still influenced by the media. If celebrities wear something and look nice, I want to wear it too, haha. In terms of thinking, I don’t think… Read more »
ann
Guest
“I think hundreds of scientists who write for behavior genetics and animal behavior journals would greatly disagree with you. I don’t follow your DNA comment, but either way, I am quite familiar with it.” Certain genes have been shown to deal with impulsive behavior in humans but I have yet to see the human personality mapped out by genes. You might be talking about something else because there is no body of evidence that proclaims “this dna=this personality”. Certain behaviors are influenced by genetic traits, that is what behavioral genetics deals with. It does not necessarily deal with personality. Personality… Read more »
neutra
Guest
“Media is far more pervasive then you are giving it credit for. The average American watches 8 hours of TV a day. For many people Media is the number on proximity now.” Yet the average American is overweight. That makes total sense! If the average person really was influenced by the media as much as you are saying they are, then perhaps they would find just even an hour out of their eight hours of sitting still to get up and actually do some exercise. But nahhh, it’s much easier just to sit there and point your finger at someone… Read more »
ann
Guest

“If people don’t want to be fit, then that’s their choice. But they shouldn’t criticise people who don’t choose to spend 8 watching tv for the sake of their HEALTH.”

And by that turn you shouldn’t be criticizing them for not living your lifestyle?

You are a pot calling a kettle black.

neutra
Guest

HEALTH is the key word here. Yes, I think that people who take care of their health are more respectable than people who don’t. I can’t stand people who complain about the dire health system and their size when they could easily do something about it.

neutra
Guest

I have to ask out of curiosity, where do people find 8 hours a day to watch tv? Do they not have jobs, or do they not have a life outside of their jobs?

ann
Guest
“HEALTH is the key word here. Yes, I think that people who take care of their health are more respectable than people who don’t. I can’t stand people who complain about the dire health system and their size when they could easily do something about it.” You addressed nothing. I said you cannot complain about the lifestyle others lead (and their looks) and then say they have no right to complain about your looks/lifestyle. Free Will is Free Will. You are just being a hypocrite. And I’m really sick of hearing about this health argument. I doubt any of you… Read more »
neutra
Guest
neutra

You addressed nothing either, other than calling me a hypocrite. All all I originally did was challenge your stat of “Americans watch 8 hours tv a day” and you didn’t like that. You just ignored my challenge, and went straight for the personal insults.

ann
Guest
http://www.economist.com/daily/chartgallery/displaystory.cfm?story_id=14252309 If you challenged it then you did it rather poorly. I saw nothing more than the usual rant on healthy lifestyle. I make no judgments on TV watching. I make no judgments on lifestyle. Certainly some might lead to longer life but it’s not my life to live and I don’t feel what i do is better than what anyone else does. I told you that you were a hypocrite because you complain about the lifestyle (and looks) others lead yet complain about their critisicm of your lifestyle (and looks). I don’t know why Americans watch so much TV.… Read more »
ann
Guest
http://www.telepresenceoptions.com/2009/09/americans_watch_eight_hours_of/ If you challenged it then you did it rather poorly. I saw nothing more than the usual rant on healthy lifestyle. I make no judgments on TV watching. I make no judgments on lifestyle. Certainly some might lead to longer life but it’s not my life to live and I don’t feel what i do is better than what anyone else does. I told you that you were a hypocrite because you complain about the lifestyle (and looks) others lead yet complain about their critisicm of your lifestyle (and looks). I don’t know why Americans watch so much TV.… Read more »
ann
Guest

Sorry for the double post, I wanted to correct a link because apparently the first one requires a subscription.

Monica
Guest
Monica

I actually like them both. For more angular outfits, the thinner model should be used but for some pieces in fashion a normal size aka “plus size” would actually look better than a pile of bones aesthetically speaking. They are both gorgeous and in pictures 1 and 3 I prefer the “plus size” girl better. I hate saying that because she is not fat at all I think she looks great.

Kelsey
Member

How interesting!
I think both of the models look gorgeous, especially in the third picture with the red belt.

Ellie
Guest
Ellie

I think they both look great. Though in the second pic the pose makes the regular model look a bit to twiggy and the other more chubby.

I’d like to see a girl who is in between these sizes modelling these clothes too (like 6/8).

Serafiina
Guest
Serafiina

I like Crystal better because she stands out more. When I looked the pictures, I constantly kept looking her.

machmalow
Member
machmalow

they both look great, but I personally prefer the skinny one -as always- except maybe in the 3rd picture where Crystal is absolutely stunning !!

Karca
Guest
Karca

i think they look good both…
the curvier one has more personality nd some poses pulled of much better, however her legs dont look so good…
the skinnier one just seems a lil bit boring since we see models like this everywhere, nothin special

wpDiscuz